Loosely related: if your relatives ever give you anything to sell on Facebook Marketplace or something, they will insist on some sort of insane price which will not move. You lower the price dramatically and it finally sells after weeks and weeks of just sitting there. Knowing that your boomer relative will be angry that it sold for $25 rather than 40 bajillion dollars, you lie to them and say you sold it for $45. They bitch, shit themselves, scream and cry, give you a hard time all throughout Sunday dinner and then claim they’re going to sell their own stuff from now on. They never sell anything, or even attempt to do so. The end.
They die and now all that stuff is your responsibility anyway
I’ll tell them on their death bed that I will totally sell their used figurines for 40 bajillion and that this is a reasonable price.
The 2012 used car market was pretty fucked. Tons of old stock had been taking off the market in 09/10 by Cash for Clunkers.
Not to mention the choice of Toyota here makes this especially silly. The used market for body-on-frame Toyotas has been so far out of whack for so long that back when you could still get 0% dealer financing it was often cheaper to buy new than used after you factored in interest rates.
In like 2018 I bought a 2014 Honda Accord Sport for $6500. 6 speed manual, fun car to drive. It had like 50k miles on it which is essentially nothing for a Honda. Carfax was clean etc. Then I had 2 kids and it was time for the Minivan. I traded in the Accord at the dealership (which I never do, but didn’t have time to do a private sale). They gave me something like $9500 for it. This was in the beginning of 2025. I drove the Accord for 7 years and made $3000 somehow. And I’m sure the dealership sold it for like $12000.
Shits crazy.
Is the bottom one made to look better with AI, is that a feature of the used car market these days?
I’m starting to look at those old cars just to not have built-in trackers on my vehicle.
The engine in my 1994 K1500 is fucked but I’ll engine swap before I buy a spyware truck.
Chevy v8’s can be rebuilt and engine swapped to the end of time… They only built ten million of them a year.
Hell, you could rent a Uhaul and use its engine, then claim in broke down on you.
Lol, I like that
I won’t drive anything I can’t fix. That seems to be old vehicles only.
Whoop whoop carburetor gang rise UP!
I the sort of person who would go to the dealership and start looking underneath the showroom cars. If I can’t see the oil filter, I don’t want it.
same, that’s why I drive a kid tricycle.
On one hand, I wanna do right by the environment, own an EV, do my part.
On the other hand, corporations are never going to do their part, the Earth is probably doomed and I have to get by to get by.
So… yeah, I’m probably buying another 6-9th gen Civic or Accord and sending it until it dissolves into the pavement.
Buying old means not purchasing net new products. It’s not fully sustainable, but it maintains the status quo and doesn’t contribute to more waste. Keeping something old alive and in good working condition is a lower carbon footprint than buying a new EV or Hybrid.
Depends on the miles. An EV undertakes a new gas car after 20k miles.
There is a point where a new EV, with mined lithium and all, will be more environmentally friendly than a used car that didn’t need to be built but burns gas for every mile.
If you live in a sunny area (pv) or a dense hydro area, that point is quite quickly reached.
Whether there’s a net lower carbon footprint depends heavily on how much gasoline you burn
However the used EV market is only growing
I’m hoping that someone does some reverse engineering on the engine management computers of EVs. EVs internals are a lot simpler. An open source, drop in brain is definitely not unachievable.
All the advantages of an EV with none of the corporate tracking.
Simple to do badly, but still challenging to do elegantly. Managing power/throttle response in every situation is quite complex if you want it to feel good. Kinda like how everyone makes a trackpad, but only Apple makes Apple trackpads.
And thats before we get into the complications of thermal management with the batteries and heat pumps and stuff.
Do you mean for an ICE to EV conversion? You can already buy such kits.
More a replacement brain for an EV. Compared to an ICE there is far less to manage in a hyper time critical manner. It’s a lot more viable to design a drop in replacement. Particularly if the battery bank already has its own monitoring, that just reports upwards.
You would end up with a modern EV, with many of the desired features. However, the manufacturer would no longer be able to reach in and extract data, either remotely, at a mechanic, or after an accident.
You can also have that. The ice replacement kits bring everything, and very often use tesla or leaf batteries. If you already have a Tesla battery in your tesla, that much you can save. You lose all the fancy features, remote app management, sentry, etc, but that might be a pro for you…
Both of my cars are from the 80’s lol. I will never buy a new vehicle again, made that mistake with a 2019 Tacoma.
I have 1974 car, a 1994 4x4 van for snow, and a 1975 motorcycle for summer. All things I do my own work on.
2UZ-FE V8, could probably push it to a million miles.
Except they’ve owned it since new, it’s got 300k and is still running the original timing belt
240k miles.
so like brand new if it’s a Toyota
Fair.
Are you trying to break Europe by using “k” and “miles” together?
240 kilomiles (km)
So many baguettes just hit the ground
Sacre bleu!
In the US, k could stand for 1042 or something, who can tell?
(it’s the number of thumbs that fit in a half barrel btw)
Why do you keep being your mother a “half barrel”?
Do you live in the US? I’ve seen you simping for Trump before but you’re not familiar with how we write car mileage?
Sus af
It just dawned on me Americans use k as a shorthand for 1000… like the metric system 🤣
And if you’d use yard, then it’s only 9% off. One kiloyard is 0.91 kilometer.
k is just a prefix, it is unit-independent
I saw that 2 kiloinches away.
Ok use kilopounds then. Or milimiles!
But milimiles would be redundant, it already gets its name from being roughly equivalent to a thousand of someone, somewhere’s (probably in Europe or the Mediterranean, but beyond that, who knows) paces.
A millimile would be five feet, three and a third inches.
Someone, somewhere’s pace!
kilopounds (Kips) is a real unit that gets used in structural design in the US. It makes no sense lol.
We already have short tons, you don’t lose much precision by halving the number!
Although I do get the argument that using tons is confusing because there are metric tons as well, and with only a 10% difference, it won’t be as obvious as if you confuse pounds and kilos or feet and meters
Anything but metric lol
K
If it’s a prefix, why do we write it after the number? 🤔
Cos its a prefix regarding the unit
K means 1,000 as in kilo because T already means 1,000,000,000,000 (trillion) OR 2000 pounds (Ton)
You will break people by using a proper Mm there. The GGP is harmless.
Cool abbreviations bro
K is short for 1000.
Merci! It’s actually “short” for “kilo”. But you’re doing great!
Winning hearts and minds being a smug prick.
Great job! You blocked eurotrash shithead!
Yeah, the new car market has made overpriced shitters look good
Just checked out a trade in 2026 model at a dealership. Had 14k miles already in 8 months and had a damaged head unit display (2k for replacement). Told the dealership they were gonna struggle to sell it, especially given that there’s an actual branded dealership selling these all day long a mile away with a quarter of the miles and no damage. It’s been sitting on their lot 2 months already with barely any online hits.
GM had a hissy fit that I suggested 2k less than their price, OTD, for me to drive it off the lot.
I suspect I’ll be getting a call back in a few weeks when their quotas are low and they realize they aren’t selling gold-plated Ferraris.
You should offer them something even lower when they do
Hell, the new cars do that too.
Just buy an electric car. It’s a 40% discount after 2 years. Thanks previous owner.
They have never made an electric car I want.
What sort of car are you a fan of? I sort of felt the same way but then Subaru (by way of being owned by Toyota) came out with an electric station wagon that mostly looks like a normal car. It’s great.
The closest anyone has come is the Golf EV. The Subaru you like is still too much like an SUV. And the interior 🤮
I was just reading about somebody who bought a car in 2020 new for like $40k, and then after three years, resold it for $45k.
People are selling their five year old used GPU for a 50% markup on MSRP. It’s crazy out there.
Inflation does crazy stuff like that.
In the 1980s here in Brazil there were people that made a living by buying new cars and reselling them before the store managed to bring the actual car from the factory.
I know several people who did that - trucks, boats, campers were all worth more used during COVID than they were worth new just a year or two before. You may recall there was a massive chip shortage during COVID and new vehicle production was greatly impacted.
Seriously, used Tacoma prices are off the fucking wall. 5 digits of dollaroos for 250,000+ hard miles. And they move. I don’t get it.
The generation, second Gen, apart from the recall for not enough rust protection, those vehicles are unkillable… If you can find one that was protected from rust its whole life for under $10k, that’s a prize
because they are desirable.
I’m never selling my manual Honda Fit.
Same but with my 2005 Corolla XRS. I’d rather pay 10k to replace the engine than buy a new car.
Toyotas are beasts. Definitely hold onto that one.
I feel the same about my '12 Civic LX. The only thing I’d give it up for is the same car with a stick.
I haven’t bought a car in almost 10 years. But, there’s this guy saying he has a lot full of used cars, $2500 to $4000. And, he says people are calling to ask if they can finance that small amount, whereas they used to just pay cash:
“small amount”. Ok Elon
In the context of prices of cars it is indeed a rather small amount.
And yet it’s still 2 months of median income in the US.
Which should be well withing an emergency fund for when, for instance, your car breaks down.
I made three financial decisions in 2019 that I regret. Two were related to major purchases that have held 2x value post Covid. The third is selling a car that was borderline classic I just wanted space back. It was a rust bucket I keep saying but now they’re going for 10x what I sold for.
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Is it some weird optical illusion or is the truck picture on the bottom actually bigger?
And it’s ✨shinier✨
That’s called marketing, baby 👉😎👉
wish they sold hilux
