Rockstar peaked with Red Dead Redemption 2.
They peaked with their last game they released? And you know this how?
Rockstar peaked with Table Tennis.
So I was watching JoeFromSeattle and he basically has an observation/theory from repeatedly interacting with these people on Twitter.
… They literally do not count themselves as ‘gamers’, they use the word to identify others.
These are the people who buy Madden/FIFA every year, every COD, every Battlefield, and assume everyone does that, to the point of projecting it without realizing it and then not believing you if you say you didn’t do that as well.
… they are very often illiterate, cannot understand sentences above roughly Grade 5 complexity, always assume they are correct and work backwards to attempt to form a justification for whatever they’ve decided is corrrect.
… they’re morons.
Like just… complete fucking morons.
And that’s not an insult, its simply accurate.
I mean, I play a lot of video games. I don’t identify as a gamer mostly because of the gamergate bullshit connotations.
I’m sorry but if you’re not playing at least one of those games every year, you are the minority. Those people who constantly buy and play games are more of a “gamer” than a judgemental arse like yourself. Those games you criticise are by FAR the most played and bought games every year, played by tens of millions of people - the majority of gamers.
People like you give “gamers” a bad name.
You just proved their point…
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I still haven’t played GTA 4 or 5. I own them (got 'em cheap long after release) but I haven’t gotten around to playing them yet. Maybe by the time I have GTA 6 will be a reasonable price.
Remember the words of Guybrush Threepwood:
I felt GTA V was boring, and it had unnecessary glamorisation of criminal life. The story was also pretty mid.
I really liked GTA IV, especially the DLCs, the story is intertwined with the three characters really well. The driving was much more realistic in 4.
I don’t have the GTA IV DLCs. Just the original PS3 disc.
I could have sworn it was Elaine
edit well that’s not what i was expecting but i’m leaving it
The main factor for me will be whether or not their employees are unionized.
GTA is the exact same formula since GTA3.
Sure you get a different story, visual upgrades, and some newer cars. But you’re not paying for a new gaming experience, it’s essentially become what people made fun of CoD or Nintendo games for.
In that sense you’ll get the same thrills from past games. That’s also why I didn’t give a shit about anything past 3, because I like to play new games not reskins.
I think it’s only survived because it is in this niche of socially acceptable “cool” games. You can admit to playing GTA to almost anyone and your not as much a “gamng nerd”, but if you like a fantasy RPG your some basement dwelling dweeb. Honestly they are not all that different from each other.
different story, visual upgrades, newer cars
Just spitballing here, but isn’t that like 90% of what makes a game? Or at the very least, literally any sequel?
Replacing “cars” with whatever is game-appropriate, of course
My idiot brother learned the term “fetch quest” and then snobbed himself right out of gaming. He couldn’t see anything happening around “go here, interact with mcguffin, go back”
The family grew up loving Sierra games, especially stuff made by the Coles, so I don’t know where he got that.
We know next to nothing about GTA6. It could be a revolutionary game for all we know. It could be the greatest game of all time.
Let’s also not forget that much of the talent that built GTA from 1 to 5 left Rockstar and did not work on 6. So there’s no reason to believe it will even be as good as the rest of the series has been.
Source?
What percentage of developers stayed from 3 to 4? 4 to 5? 5 to 6?
People have the power to shut down bad practices if they had even a modicum of restraint. They don’t, so here we are.
At some point though you have to accept that if the vast majority are ok with something, it’s probably not an actual issue.
You don’t have to like it or agree with it, and you have the ability to vote with your wallet. Digital only people have been voting with their wallet for years, and physical copy buyers haven’t.
It’s kind of disheartening not having solidarity as consumers. It also feeds this kinda FOMO because you showed restraint and are missing out on something.
I’ve come to terms with this. I view fomo content as disrespectful and I do not support the companies that use it as a tactic.
People are desperate to latch on to any morsel of media that can distract them from our burning planet, our exploitative society, and their resultant miserable life
Thats why they dont have control, they need this desperately
It does feel like the average person has the self control of a toddler.
I don’t think they care as much as you think they do, it is how the average person would have purchased the game regardless
Exactly. The people showing their real level of intellect are the people who seem to be unable to understand the facts of the situation, think that they know better than the company who actually manufactures and sells the things, and call everyone else dumb and unintelligent for not agreeing with their factually incorrect opinion.
The ‘everyone is 12’ joke-theory is actually just essentially true.
In the US, the average adult person in fact is no more literate or ‘numerate’ than a 12 year old, a 5th grader.
The average person literally is a tween, in terms of higher thought capacity.
Again… this is not a joke, it is just actually true.
Apply George Carlin logic to this.
50% of American adults are less mentally capable than 12 year olds.
I don’t understand this. Do something else.
Somebody do something
Somebody that you used to know
Somebody do somebody
Somebody find me somebody to love
Some BODY
It’s another Saturday night and I ain’t got!
The entire generation after the Millenials are impulsive and raised entirely on being nickeled and dimed to death.
They charge they phones, eat hot chip, and lie.
I assume you’re being downvoted because this is true for every generation for the past 150 years, give or take. However, I agree that it’s gotten so much worse over the past ~20. Since phones, microtransactions, and subscriptions have become the norm, it’s accelerated to an astounding degree.
we ain’t getting paid in scrip yet. got paid in tacos a few times. those were some of the better gigs actually.
Didn’t even know I was honestly. I guess there is a nuance that comes with explaining a position like mine. It was 100% in sympathy of the newer generations, not an attack. They’re so overwhelmed with subscriptions, FOMO, and legally children’s gambling like loot boxes that it’s fucking depressing.
I’m down with a boycott. Let’s do it.
This is how it will go:
Hold on, we need a boycott song. We want it about gta or boycotts?
edit i’ve decided. can’t go wrong with buffalo springfield
GTA5 was out for like three years on PC before I bothered with it. I found it to be… fairly mediocre. There’s nothing in GTA6 that would make me feel otherwise. I’ll eventually play it… at great discount, or not at all.
Yeah I genuinely don’t understand the hype. Maybe I’m just old and fully saturated with GTA already.
Keep in mind…
0 actual gameplay footage, so far.
Zilch, 0, Nada, None.
Also, … it wont even be capable of hitting 60 fps on a PS5 or Xbox series fucking whatever.
It might even be locked at 30.
https://wccftech.com/gta-6-skip-60-fps-entirely-insane-detail-ps5-pro/
… where the fuck is the baffled Jackie Chan meme when I need it?
Yeah this shit makes no sense to be excited for, unless you basically have oppositional defiance disorder, and you just enjoy being snide, in a group.
Literally… Back a few years ago when that idiot hacked into RockStar and leaked the alpha build of GTA6… (and was then immediately caught because he is an idiot)… thats it. Clips from that are the closest to actual gameplay anyone has ever seen.
nothing special but rabid fans and worth a billion dollars, it’s the Taylor Swift of video game franchises
Maybe but it’s also sloppified. I mean, a casino? Really? GTA V Online lost the irony and became just bad.
I liked it, but I only owned San Andreas, played a bit of IV and LCS, then V, so I haven’t really reached GTA fatigue yet
Nothing will ever top GTA 2 for me. That was such an awesome game. It was just stupidly fun.
It’s like people with windows computers who complain about Apple
Some people don’t understand the difference in quality as they lack taste
That’s certainly an opinion
I thought it was pretty cool, as a crass story, mockery of aspects of corporations and society, and as a driving sim. My least favourite part of any MMO is its griefing potential. Fallout 76 was okay because while you, a roleplayer/gamer interested in the game, still got hurt by griefers only interested in murdering other humans, it reduced damage to a miniscule level.
GTA V Online required that you either secede from society entirely with a private lobby or become a true pacifist, meaning no PvE. Later on they stopped selling exclusively weapon-free vehicles to players and the entertainment level of free roam for me dropped to zero. After that it became just a hub for racing, FPS or sitting in the apartment watching TV, all of which can be better achieved elsewhere.
Very early on they had an actual player investible and influenceable stock market, in Online.
They shut that down quite quickly though.
Because you could make money too easily.
Shark Cards only baby!
Fuck our interesting gameplay mechanic, strip that shit out, MTX, make RockStar into the comically evil tech corpos they mock in GTA V’s own story.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Heh. I have played a few games, and the only ones with functional auction houses and economies had ways to put real money in, but not get real money out.
The last good GTA game was GTA 2.
Are we at the anti-rockstar coping phase where we pretend that most of their games are trash already? 🤣
GTA3 was revolutionary and legit one of the most important, best games of all time. Vice city was arguably even better of a game. 5 is just an insane open world, the likes which we’ve never seen in a game.
Now I say this as someone who has no interest in GTA6, got a free copy of GTA5 on 360 and sold it unopened, and hated GTA4, so don’t assume I’m some GTA fanboy.
I enjoyed Vice City, but never finished it.
Well that’s a crazy take, you can just say you don’t like the Rockstar narrative open-world shooter style.
I can also say I didn’t want to buy it, but gta1 and 2 were great arcade games. They were ready to emulate too.
I don’t know why I played saints row and not gta. I blame zoidberg
I started playing GTA 5 shortly after launch and could make the same statement.
I’ve bought launch day on this series for a few iterations now.
Did I miss something or is gta not associated with Sony at all besides being console first for a while?
They announced that they’re not releasing a disc version just a few days before sony announced they were going to phase out discs for the playstation.
Thank, I didn’t know that
They’re both going diskless/digital downloads for games.
Or
Buy official or pirated physical disc media, pay $0 after optional initial purchase, forever own purchased or pirated+torrented movies
You have to protect your rights, no one else will
One problem. I don’t speak lao and that’s the language in all the dvd menus on our Hitchcock box set
GTA VI will have no official physical media :(
Gamers are so impatient these days. I guess all that instant access via online platforms has spoiled them.
I still remember when you ordered physical games via mail and had to gulp actually wait a 1-2 weeks for delivery.
Either that or actually go into a store.
Back then you really looked forward to a game and you actually played and finished it. Also, patches or updates were either rare or non existent depending on the platform, so Devs actually had to release a complete game. There were no DLCs, there were expansion packs, if anything.
I never understood people who need to have a game or a piece of hardware on release day. There will always be bugs. When it comes to hardware, I always wait for at least one revision, before I pull the trigger. As for games, I no longer pay more than 20€ for a game. It’s on my wishlist, I only care about the single player experience, my backlog is huge, sales happen all the time,… I can wait.
I don’t think the “no patches” thing was all that true for PC games. I’ve been gaming since the first Fallout and for practically every game I could/had to download one or more patches from the official website. For multiplayer games like Warcraft 3 you had to make sure everyone was using the same patch. One of the major advantages of Steam was automating the update process.
It’s been that way for a while, but before the usenet turned into the internet it was hard to download shit. Especially compared to now
I guess all that instant access via online platforms has spoiled them.
And FOMO. I think many active gamers follow youtubers and other gaming content on social media, so they’re afraid of spoilers too.
That’s the reason we can’t have nice things: the MoFos that will follow along when Evil Inc. does evil thing because they just can’t live without the latest wrinkle.
I never understood GTA online. For me GTA is a great single player series, so get fucked with your stupid Rockstar Launcher.
