Yes, this IS fine. There’s too many people on this fucking planet. The only reason this is considered a problem is because capitalism and the Bible says so.
No other reason. Period.
Not even close to true
If you select North America and slide the slider between 2050 and 2080 it looks like a face opening their mouth and sceeaming.
well 1 out of 23 humans checking to see if random internet claims are true is better odds than i expected, well done sir
1950’s America with that flared base!
Maybe true if you’re comparing 60+ to under 5
Low birth rates are a crisis for capitalism, not humanity. And if you count brown countries, it’s not even happening.
Pension schemes are not a biological imperative.
Not really anything to do with capitalism. If the ratio of workers to non-workers decreases without a proportionate increase in productivity, a higher proportion of workers’ time has to be spent catering to the needs of non-workers. That means less time spent not working and/or less time spent producing unnecessary stuff that improves our lives like chocolate or TV shows.
Senior citizens do not out number young people, however there is almost as many senior citizens as young people and that may be some cause for concern
Good. There are too many people. Why do we want to expand on a 7billion+ population when so many of us are struggling? How about we only have as many people as we have resources for everyone having a good life?
I’m not arguing for population growth but we definitely have more than enough resources for everyone now. Scarcity isn’t the problem, it’s that we allow people to hoard those resources and we waste a ton of them.
“We have enough resources” is such a shitty god damned argument. At least you didn’t go “hurr durr everyone on the planet can fit in Manhattan if they just squeeze tightly”.
But god damned ask yourself what kind of world you want to live in, not min maxxing the number of people alive for some absolutely incomprehensible reason.
“WE CAN SQUEEZE ONE MORE IN THERE, BOYS! SHE CAN TAKE IT!”
For WHAT?! WHY?!
When we can prove it by providing everyone the same (good) standard of life, across the entire world, then I’ll believe it.
Stuff like everyone has housing, clean safe water, safe to eat food, able to escape from extreme climate swings, healthcare, vacation, parental leave, and I’m sure lots more that I’m not thinking of.
Once everyone has that, then we can look at what we can expand on
But think about the profits! We need more people to exploit, if there aren’t enough people to replace those who demand disgusting things like “actual living wages” with ones that are just happy to get any job at all, where do you think we’ll end up?? We’d have to actually value workers, no, human life itself, instead of just pretending to do so while treating them all as replaceable as they are! And, most importantly, this would hurt my bottom line! I need a new yacht this year, ok? You just don’t understand how important my wants truly are, ok?? So stop spreading such nonsense! ~ Pretty much every CEO out there, probably
After all this time humanity finally created a world with high life expectancy, just to start wondering now whether we should.
As long as that high lifespan comes with a high healthspan, it shouldn’t be a problem.
Of course we should. People dying is horrible. Anyone who thinks otherwise can opt in to check out.
If only that were legal in many places.
After all this time humanity finally created a world with high life expectancy…
…and it only cost the sustainability of the lower class and the entire global south.
We fucked the climate up enough for it to cost the next generations the global north as well
It is indeed fine. In 1900 there were about 1.6 milliard people, versus the 8.3 today.
Oh no we are running out of people!
That dog never had puppies?
OAPs is 60-100, young children is…0-10 at most.
Should be 4x as many if we can stop people dying needlessly.
What’s your beef sports fan?
“Yeah but children are too much of a responsibility and just a headache to be around, and how am I supposed to travel/party/spend money on my hobbies with children involved? I’ll just chill with my cat and my plants!”
Username checks out, what a wack take
If you think that’s why people aren’t having kids you need to actually go talk to young adults more.
I feel like having child in the modern age is like breeding pinkies to feed to snakes.
Genuine humanity seems like it’s almost entirely absent from modern life and society just pretends it’s living while it’s repeating the same forms of escapism masked and marketed as lifestyles and life paths.
As if these lifestyles are psychologically marketed to condense genuine people into the false lifestyle so that they are easier to control socially and politically as a group.
I’m sick of watching authenticity get lost. Almost everything gets raped for its worth and then the new generations get born into this life thinking it’s authentic.
I think the younger generations right now know how fake it all is and that there has to be a better way. The problem is they don’t have the power yet. I’m really trying to stay hopeful for the midterms after seeing how many progressive candidates won in the primaries.
Things can still change. We just have to keep up the hope
No offence, but I think that if people think they can make change with votes then they don’t really understand how dark reality is.
I don’t think anything will ever change for real until people get over the denial of this truth and the extremely heavy weight of its surrealism.
People and citizens are assets like farm cattle. The nation is the middle man, and the wealthy do business with the nation for their own objectives and agendas. Citizens are like kids in a play pen, put their by the wealthy, so that they can do the real work and play the real game in reality without the citizens causing too much trouble or issues.
As citizens we are groomed and taught not to understand the real game and real reality. Our success, the American or western success we are groomed to want and achieve is usually not Human success. John Stockwell, a CIA whistleblower said it well, “…they are using people for purpose that is not their actual purpose…”
Left right and center are all just tools to be abused. And no one wants to truly face honest reality when they can just Netflix or scroll reality away. Our ill-gotten privileges are a major problem to the human species. They aren’t rights, and they aren’t good, they are a veil that masks us from reality and keeps us pacified as cattle while they use us. Kind of like a pimp abusing their hooker with drugs so that they will submit to wealthy Johns that use them. And in the end most of gains from the transaction go to the pimp (nation), which just get re entered into the economy of the pimp and the wealthy, not the hookers(citizens). Money will be used to keep the hooker in the figurative playpen though… That’s what we get as citizens, occasional novelty on our free-range farm solely to give us the perfect level on centent so that people don’t wake up to the reality.
Our nations are outdated and I think trump is actually a puppet in place to distract while they build up modern infrastructure of surveillance and policing to regain control in modern times. And I think they don’t mind human and social sacrifices during this process. In fact part of the process is probably specifically depopulating.
I really think we are groomed from birth into something far darker than anyone wants to admit because weight of the truth is literally the weight of the whole universes authentic reality. Nothing is going to change until people are willing to wake up completely, not half way, and not via votes or charity. Truth is harsh and real sacrifices need to be made and not many are willing to make them because truth is fucking terrifying.
This doesn’t need to be “conspiracy” either, it could just simply be a side effect that grew stronger than the initial foundation without being noticed. There’s not even a need to say there is some elite mastermind group - that’s not a requisite for this idea to be truth.
Oh, I do. The main difference is this: they simply don’t want it as much as they want other things. And it is, of course, due to ideological and cultural reasons, mostly (sometimes it’s trauma too, which is understandable).
That’s just not true at all. They simply can’t afford it and see how screwed up the world is and are cautious about bringing a life into this world responsibly.
Source: on the younger side wanting to start a family but none of my friends or I can afford it and we talk about it often
My guy, of all my close friends I know a single couple with kids. Everyone else is struggling to stay afloat. Aside from that one couple, the others are more or less all just making ends meet as is.
I can’t imagine many of them are really thinking “this month was really tight between food prices going way up, rent going up, and my wages staying the same. Y’know what we really need right now? A $10k medical bill to have a baby delivered, having to move to a larger apartment, buying all sorts of furniture, clothes, and services, and then another mouth to feed for the next 18 years. Then maybe we’ll do it another 2 or 3 times!”
I literally can’t afford my life week to week as a middle aged single person. I should t be retiring in 25 years. 😂
I can’t even afford hobbies that aren’t free and don’t require gas.
You couldn’t possibly come up with a dumber take, even if you tried.
To be fair, this is at least 50% of the reason I’m not having kids right now. I’m sure this perspective is not representative of everyone though.
