This. So…much…this.
Our egos are a frequency, a perspective…but we are part of something much larger than we are capable of understanding.
We are all just a radio station, broadcasting into infinity, into a receiver capable of receiving infinite frequencies.
We are the bacteria on our own fingernails, but we are everything…all at the same time.
The universe is as old as it takes for us to be everything.
I am he
As you are he
As you are me
And we are all together
I remember when I believed this. How I wish it were true
That’s the neat thing, you can choose to believe both to be true at the same time, but never reconcile them. Just as there most likely wouldn’t be pleasure without pain.
As a species, we really should learn to live in and with perpetual ambiguity. There is no fixed point and no achieving bliss. Only permanent struggle towards the “right” path, whatever that shapes up to be.
Woah. That was… Deep
I’m kind of split on that :>
OP should watch “Look Outside” lore videos
So the universe hates itself. This explains a lot.
Growing pains of an emerging consciousness.
Not looking forward to it’s teenage years
“Did I stutter?”
It’s amazing how popular this ancient philosophical metaphysical perspective is. Even Stephen Colbert, a devout Catholic, responded with a similar concept when asked in his questionnaire what happens when we die?
Moksha (Hinduism), Nirvana (Buddhism), returning to the Tao (Taoism), Neoplatonism (ancient Greece), Fanaa (Sufism/Mystical Islam) - over millenia, so many traditions have been captivated by the idea of rejoining with “the One”.
Within Hinduism is the nonthestic framework promoted by Adi Shankara known as Advaita Vedanta which is Sanskrit for nonduality. This takes the concept even further, positing that we are one eternally and that individuality / self are spiritual Maya or illusion.
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It’s amazing how popular this ancient philosophical metaphysical perspective is. Even Stephen Colbert, a devout Catholic, in his final episode responded with a similar concept when asked in his questionnaire what happens when we die?
Moksha (Hinduism), Nirvana (Buddhism), returning to the Tao (Taoism), Neoplatonism (ancient Greece), Fanaa (Sufism/Mystical Islam) - over millenia, so many traditions have been captivated by the idea of rejoining with “the One”.
Within Hinduism is the nonthestic framework promoted by Adi Shankara known as Advaita Vedanta which is Sanskrit for nonduality. This takes nonduality even further, positing that we are one eternally and that individuality / self are spiritual Maya or illusion.
it’s not antique, it’s continuously re-discovered. it’s timeless. some might call it universal
perennial philosophy
Advaita vedanta ftw
The Universe (big thing) pretending to be individuals (small thing)
vs
Atoms (small thing) pretending to be individuals (big thing)
Do you ever just realize that everyone is in space right now? Like, sure, there’s an atmosphere, but other than that you’re basically out there. The air around you is sky. The vacuum around you is universe. When you take a closer look, there are universes within universes, whole worlds of microbes, like the ones on the very surface of the keyboard I type this on - on the larger scale, ecosystems of stars, being born, evolving and dying - like in a cosmic “firework show”. But they don’t tend to affect each other, I think. They’re so far away…
And then, there’s us. We’re so small yet so big. Does that make us special or just mediocre? To an ant we are giants, to a star we don’t exist. Why does consciousness as we know it only exist in the middle of sizes? Maybe because it’s “as we know it”, and of course we only really know what things are like at our scale? Maybe sapience is subtle, and it can only be detected when you spend every moment dealing with it. Perhaps atoms are kind of conscious, and brains are the shape they make such that their consciousness field constructively interferes. Idk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceship_Earth
the article is shit sadly
Spaceship Earth (or Spacecraft Earth or Spaceship Planet Earth) is a worldview encouraging everyone on Earth to act as a harmonious crew working toward the greater good.
nah
it’s just saying that there’s no absolute ground, no absolute physical coordinate system. (relativity)
I love this kind of philosophy. I wish it were possible to access it on a tangible level, but sadly it seems consciousness is local phenomena
eh you can still walk around and talk to other people
I’ve heard if you take certain hallucinogens you can…
There’s actually a shocking variety that induce this, as an amateur psychonaut. Personally, I enjoy LSA for a “lite” version. One can brew it from a particular yellow flower native to the Southwest, but particularly called “mormon tea”.
shrooms can make you more empathetic, but in my case it also unlocked a new kind of depression in realizing that so many who need a change of perspective to see things that way, even for but a glimpse, never will. I felt such love and empathy for others in that moment, and such sorrow that it would never be felt nor returned by the vast majority of others; I understood perfectly in that moment what Edgar Mitchell meant by an “instant global consciousness”, and how we would likely never achieve this state of enlightenment among enough individuals to matter.
And then there’s people like Joe Rogan who take all the psychedelics but apparently don’t realize a fucking thing.
“they’re consciousness expanding drugs, there has to be some consciousness there to expand”
I understood perfectly in that moment what Edgar Mitchell meant by an “instant global consciousness”, and how we would likely never achieve this state of enlightenment among enough individuals to matter.
consciousness is like a river, it becomes turbulent when things start flowing quickly enough. the abrasive property of living in a society full of change is ironically what makes it difficult to relate to other people’s experience, as it is quite difficult to see the actions in another train’s wagons when the relative movement is too great.
Have you tried DMT?
Twice
Fucking intense
I’ve been seriously considering trying it. How long did the after effects last?
After 45 mins felt basically normal a little run down like hadn’t had my morning coffee yet.
The peak apparently lasted 20 mins. I experienced several cosmic epochs in that period
Any long term effects? Did you love it? Hate it?
no
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Yeah they can make you feel that way especially if you do them with a tight friend, but in reality you’re still locked into your own perspective.
Maybe if more people believed we could kind of willingly feel it by proxy. Kind of like how mirror neurons let you simulate the other on your own equipment.
Can confirm that enough magic mushrooms will cause you to see and feel god.
Meditation but it would take a while to get there. It is fun to work towards it though.
Yeah meditation is cool. Would be interesting to try doing it more
Yeah, but being able to conceive of it is a pretty cool consolation prize at least.
It is :)
You could just work on “first shift”, or what in Buddhism is called Fetters 1 and 2. Seeing through the self delusion. No woo-woo required and it’s the first stepping stone. But a big one.Just realizing there is no “me” here, and never has been, helps a lot.
Cool. WTF though.
My thought recently has been:
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The universe is physical, ie made of material stuff. There is just stuff and the forces between stuff
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Stuff is governed by physical laws
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The interractions between things are relatively simple, but get much more complex and seemingly ramdom the more stuff you add
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This seeming randomness is not true randomness because the interractions between things are governed by predictable rules
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We are made of stuff, down to the neurons in our brains
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Our actions and thoughts are ultimately directly caused by neuronal activity that is (in theory) predictable and governed by laws
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Free will and individuality aren’t “real” in the way people typically mean. Our actions are determined entirely by the particles in our system interracting with the constituent parts of other systems.
My conclusion: this doesn’t matter on a practical level. We still experience free will and individuality. But those things are illusions caused by the interractions of many complex systems.
what if you live in a computer simulation, and you just see chemicals because that’s part of the simulation, but there are actually none?
Spoiler
This is called “determinism”
Take a look at this and it gives some room for flexibility (from a movie called Waking Life): https://youtu.be/4arOKZvuZK4
Which part of that clip gives some room for flexibility? From my watching of the clip, he just says this is an old religious problem that we are now examining from the viewpoint of science, and that the apparent room for flexibility in quantum probabilities don’t offer anything like actual free will. And he essentially concludes by saying that despite there being no evidence of any shred of anything like free will, that we still need to search for and strive for it.
Watching this clip back on college is what solidified my love for philosophy.
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WOAH the universe is Gluttony from Fullmetal Alchemist??
FTFY
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