• ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    My thought recently has been:

    1. The universe is physical, ie made of material stuff. There is just stuff and the forces between stuff

    2. Stuff is governed by physical laws

    3. The interractions between things are relatively simple, but get much more complex and seemingly ramdom the more stuff you add

    4. This seeming randomness is not true randomness because the interractions between things are governed by predictable rules

    5. We are made of stuff, down to the neurons in our brains

    6. Our actions and thoughts are ultimately directly caused by neuronal activity that is (in theory) predictable and governed by laws

    7. Free will and individuality aren’t “real” in the way people typically mean. Our actions are determined entirely by the particles in our system interracting with the constituent parts of other systems.

    My conclusion: this doesn’t matter on a practical level. We still experience free will and individuality. But those things are illusions caused by the interractions of many complex systems.

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      21 hours ago

      what if you live in a computer simulation, and you just see chemicals because that’s part of the simulation, but there are actually none?

      Spoiler

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        16 hours ago

        Which part of that clip gives some room for flexibility? From my watching of the clip, he just says this is an old religious problem that we are now examining from the viewpoint of science, and that the apparent room for flexibility in quantum probabilities don’t offer anything like actual free will. And he essentially concludes by saying that despite there being no evidence of any shred of anything like free will, that we still need to search for and strive for it.