• ɔiƚoxɘup@sh.itjust.works
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    5 hours ago

    Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn’t be better to be in the meat grinder. It would imbue concrete purpose. Head first though. That’d be nicer.

  • AnDoLiN@lemmy.zip
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    9 hours ago

    The idea of free will is just a tool of tyranny. That’s the excuse they can use to persecute everyone who doesn’t “choose” to do the “right” thing. What the “right” thing is depends entirely on the cultural sensibilities of the time.

    Do you have insomnia or do you just “choose” to be lazy.

    Are you an alcoholic or do you just “choose” to drink.

    Do you genuinely enjoy exercise or do you “choose” to do it?

    Do you just value family or do you “choose” to prioritize it.

    You will always do the best damn thing that’s available to you and arbitrarily it’s either vice or virtue.

    There but for the grace of god go I.

    • NoWay@lemmy.world
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      6 hours ago

      Even if free will is an illusion, its best to teach it. Otherwise you’ll have people going its not my fault I killed my father. I was prophesied to do so.

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        2 hours ago

        Ah yes, just as one chooses to be gay or houseless. /s

        Whether or not free will exists is a fine philosophical debate but teaching it would be akin to doing the same with religion in school. Fine as part of a college course but not for primary.

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      1 hour ago

      Imperialism pointed inward is a huge part of the setting at very least.

      Damn i need to watch that again.

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Does a poor person have the same free will as a rich person?

    Does a rat trapped in a maze have free will?

    Does a veal calf have free will?

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      9 hours ago

      Freedom no, that’s not a binary state.

      Free will? Yes. They have the capacity to react to their environment. The veal cow’s sadness and suffering are evidence of the free will to react.

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          2 hours ago

          I’d say they are choices, just not concious choices.

          You can demonstrate this by noticing the way different people have different reactions to the same experiences or events.

          Easiest to see in people because of the greater awareness and agency but it applies to cows too because they’re smart enough to have individual personalities

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              2 hours ago

              Yeah, totally.

              I laugh at my hayfever, through the sneezing and the coughing. My husband gets angry.

              So we have very different levels of “suffering” to the same experience.

              Good example, thanks.