• essell@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    I’d say they are choices, just not concious choices.

    You can demonstrate this by noticing the way different people have different reactions to the same experiences or events.

    Easiest to see in people because of the greater awareness and agency but it applies to cows too because they’re smart enough to have individual personalities

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        20 hours ago

        Yeah, totally.

        I laugh at my hayfever, through the sneezing and the coughing. My husband gets angry.

        So we have very different levels of “suffering” to the same experience.

        Good example, thanks.

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            15 hours ago

            I guess so. If you wanted to fake a reaction you could choose to, so the opposite must be true too, right? Choice happens at different levels, and most the choices we make happen at a level outside the conscious mind so quickly we wouldn’t register them as choices

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              10 hours ago

              So I chose not to be allergic? Interesting! Why did you choose to be allergic? Are you stupid? Is it a fetish?

              Do you choose to die when you get shot?

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                10 hours ago

                Given that this has moved from discussing the topic to personal attacks, I’d say this conversation has run its course.

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                  10 hours ago

                  Sorry, too far?

                  It ran its course when you said allergies are a choice. You’re literally telling me that you choose to be allergic, and that I choose to not be allergic. What the fuck do I say to that? So, I tried to highlight how alien and impossible to understand you are to me.