The idea of free will is just a tool of tyranny. That’s the excuse they can use to persecute everyone who doesn’t “choose” to do the “right” thing. What the “right” thing is depends entirely on the cultural sensibilities of the time.
Do you have insomnia or do you just “choose” to be lazy.
Are you an alcoholic or do you just “choose” to drink.
Do you genuinely enjoy exercise or do you “choose” to do it?
Do you just value family or do you “choose” to prioritize it.
You will always do the best damn thing that’s available to you and arbitrarily it’s either vice or virtue.
Even if free will is an illusion, its best to teach it. Otherwise you’ll have people going its not my fault I killed my father. I was prophesied to do so.
I don’t know. To me agency and free will feel pretty separate. Events are necessitated by the past and the laws of the universe. But us choosing to do something is a part of that, and so are our values. I’m not sure if I would act any different if I believed in Compatibilism or free will, but I don’t think I would. How would life be any different?
Unless you’re getting determinism mixed up with pre-destination
I have absolutely 0 desire to harm anyone. I don’t believe in free will… i don’t even experience myself as having it. But I have absolutely no true desire to hurt anyone. Maybe sometimes I get upset and I wanna tear someone a new one but i would never actually harm anyone. It’s just a passing feeling.
But yeah, that other guy maybe did kill someone. But correct it ain’t their “fault”. Because there’s no such damn thing as fault. However there are CONSEQUENCES. Maybe that kid got bullied, they were alone, and the consequence is they shot up the school. I don’t need fault to recognize yeah that ain’t a good thing. i can just recognize a potential chain of events and ask oh hey maybe fucking let’s do something to address mental health issues BEFORE people get hurt. Because the consequence of that just might be less shot up schools. Or maybe someone actually did get born with a brain unlike mine that just is cool with hurting other people. Let’s find a way to address that. I don’t need to hate that person but I can say, yeah, maybe don’t let them around other people in the interest of the well-being of majority. give them as humane life as possible but don’t give them the opportunity to hurt others. That’s all. Fault has fuck all do with any of it. Like I said, just a tool of tyranny.
Ah yes, just as one chooses to be gay or houseless. /s
Whether or not free will exists is a fine philosophical debate but teaching it would be akin to doing the same with religion in school. Fine as part of a college course but not for primary.
The idea of free will is just a tool of tyranny. That’s the excuse they can use to persecute everyone who doesn’t “choose” to do the “right” thing. What the “right” thing is depends entirely on the cultural sensibilities of the time.
Do you have insomnia or do you just “choose” to be lazy.
Are you an alcoholic or do you just “choose” to drink.
Do you genuinely enjoy exercise or do you “choose” to do it?
Do you just value family or do you “choose” to prioritize it.
You will always do the best damn thing that’s available to you and arbitrarily it’s either vice or virtue.
There but for the grace of god go I.
Even if free will is an illusion, its best to teach it. Otherwise you’ll have people going its not my fault I killed my father. I was prophesied to do so.
I don’t know. To me agency and free will feel pretty separate. Events are necessitated by the past and the laws of the universe. But us choosing to do something is a part of that, and so are our values. I’m not sure if I would act any different if I believed in Compatibilism or free will, but I don’t think I would. How would life be any different?
Unless you’re getting determinism mixed up with pre-destination
Nope.
I have absolutely 0 desire to harm anyone. I don’t believe in free will… i don’t even experience myself as having it. But I have absolutely no true desire to hurt anyone. Maybe sometimes I get upset and I wanna tear someone a new one but i would never actually harm anyone. It’s just a passing feeling.
But yeah, that other guy maybe did kill someone. But correct it ain’t their “fault”. Because there’s no such damn thing as fault. However there are CONSEQUENCES. Maybe that kid got bullied, they were alone, and the consequence is they shot up the school. I don’t need fault to recognize yeah that ain’t a good thing. i can just recognize a potential chain of events and ask oh hey maybe fucking let’s do something to address mental health issues BEFORE people get hurt. Because the consequence of that just might be less shot up schools. Or maybe someone actually did get born with a brain unlike mine that just is cool with hurting other people. Let’s find a way to address that. I don’t need to hate that person but I can say, yeah, maybe don’t let them around other people in the interest of the well-being of majority. give them as humane life as possible but don’t give them the opportunity to hurt others. That’s all. Fault has fuck all do with any of it. Like I said, just a tool of tyranny.
Ah yes, just as one chooses to be gay or houseless. /s
Whether or not free will exists is a fine philosophical debate but teaching it would be akin to doing the same with religion in school. Fine as part of a college course but not for primary.