when will they realize you cant vote your way out??!!!
needs the button colors swapped
Then start the revolution. What’s stopping you? I see lots of talk of a revolution, but nobody seems to want to be the brave one to die for it.
Needs more people.
Also, some of us aren’t from the US.We don’t have enough people or a well enough organized proletariat. We need you and people like you to get involved before it is possible. A revolution must be popular, it must be rooted in the will of the working class not a small and insignificant minority that most people haven’t had any real interaction with. We can’t just do a revolution spontaneously either, there needs to be a revolutionary moment created by a significant crisis within capitalism that just isn’t there yet for the imperial core. Trying to start a revolution rn would be an exercise in futility.
This is why we agitate for revolution. This is why we point out the flaws in reformism. It is to get enough people on our side for revolution to be possible. Asking why we haven’t revolted already misses the entire point.
So given that revolution is not currently possible, then maybe voting for the dem soc candidate is the right thing to do with what little power we have?
Its only “not possible” because those who dont want to face the terrifying reality of the situation continue to retreat to reformist tendencies that don’t work and got us here in the first place. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy that can become untrue the instant you guys decide to get real.
As long as you are also taking other actions to further the goal of revolution. I am not the type to take issue with electoralism if electoralism isn’t what you spend all of your energy on. I would also encourage you to keep your expectations (but not your demands) for these candidates low as to avoid falling into doomerism.
“Hurr durr why doesn’t someone just make a nuclear reactor. What’s stopping them? I see lots of talk and blueprints about making this nuclear reactor but no one seems to want to be the brave one to just do it. What’s that about? Why do people need to plan things and get other people on board for things?”
The ones who are serious are the ones building DSA instead of being an irrelevant chronic online poster
Vote for a politician who advocates for slightly better policies, or…try to build a paramilitary with people I wouldn’t trust to run a lemonade stand with?
Yeah I’m gonna vote so hard let me tell you.
Enjoy the Thiel camps, we’ll try and get the paramilitary to get you out in time
So you don’t trust the people in your own class but you trust politicians?
The idea that I should trust “people in my own class” categorically is insane, but that’s not even who I’m talking about. I’m just talking about the kinds of people I’ve met who think of voting and revolution in this binary way, who condemn anything short of insurrection. I’ve seen how these people live, and the most apt description is usually “barely”. Too neurotic, too online, too personally disorganized to actually change the world. Never met an IRL Lenin, Ho Chi Minh, or Sankara.
So imma let them work on that. Meanwhile, given the world as it is, between “Do revolution” and “Vote” I’ll vote every time.
No that’s not what I said or meant. Your statement implies that you categorically trust politicians more than people like you.
You are the one seeing things in a binary way here - you can vote and also still work on improving things between elections.
I bet I can guess their class
Lol
Indeed.
