• Asidonhopo@lemmy.world
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      A stewardess caught it in person-to-person transmission and is showing symptoms. 7 passengers are already home in the US. This strain can take a week or two to show symptoms.

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      the human to human narrative is being pushed by media pushed by cruise industry advert dollars.

      “We feed people rat shit” did not do well with focus groups.

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        The idea of human-to-human transmission is not some kind of fringe media panic. The World Health Organization has acknowledged that it could be human-to-human.

        “We do believe ‌that there may ⁠be some human-to-human transmission that’s happening among the really close contacts, the husband and wife, people who have shared cabins,” Maria Van Kerkhove, the director of epidemic and pandemic preparedness and prevention at the WHO, told reporters in Geneva.

        It’s just that the spread would likely be limited, unlike COVID which is highly transmissible.

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          The thing you quote is a completely different situation than what the press is pushing around.

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            Care to share with the class? Is the Lügenpresse in the room with us right now? I just linked to “the press” who were pushing that WHO quote around.

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        • I’m not saying that human-to-human transmission isn’t possible. The WHO has acknowledged the possibility.
        • The point is that transmissibility is likely quite low, i.e. even if there’s human-to-human transmission, it’s unlikely to be severe.
        • “Got infected” in this case is “suspected of being infected”; we don’t know yet.
        • For your own health, please don’t read the New York Post. Anything worth reporting will have coverage in other, actually reliable, sources.
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          No, you said, and the WHO for that case, that it was “very complicated and required extended intimacy”. If the case is positive it would mean that person to person contagion of this particular strand of virus is way easier than expected.

          I don’t read that, not that you can say me what to read, you don’t have the ability to control what I chose to read, sorry. It was just the first result when googling the news.

          • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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            you don’t have the ability to control what I chose to read, sorry.

            What does the word “please” mean to you? It’s a well-informed suggestion, and you were always free to ignore it.

            As for the quote “very complicated and required extended intimacy”, can you point me to where the WHO has said that regarding this outbreak? Neither your article nor mine says those exact words.

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              https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/hantavirus-associated-cluster-illness-cruise-ship-ecdc-assessment-and

              “Person-to-person transmission of ANDV has only been documented following close and prolonged contact.”

              ECDC in this particular case. I’m quickly looking for quotes on my phone. But I doubt WHO have a different response. As the current academic knowledge of the virus is just that. The most studied case was of the Argentinian chilean epidemic when it was though that all contagions had close and intimate contact.

              If the flight attendant case is positive then we should reevaluate our knowledge on the virus.

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                Yeah, how close and personal is a flight attendant expected to get? This doesnt seem good.

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                  If you’d read it, you would know:

                  At this early stage of the investigation with limited available information, we consider everyone on the ship to be close contacts, due to the closed setting and shared social areas and activities, aligned with the precautionary principle.

                  If a cruise ship is close and personal, a fuselage is obviously close and personal. The virologists are taking this into account; you’re not going to have any considerations they haven’t already thought of with 1000x more expertise and scrutiny.

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    Isn’t this just the mouse shit virus? It’s been around forever, if you have a house with mice you have a risk of getting it. The fear is that it’s deadly, not that it spreads rapidly.

    Unless this is somehow a new strain, all this story has told me is the company is a running a naaaasty effing ship for 3 ppl to have gotten sick. Will be actively avoiding

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      This is the Andes strain which can pass from person to person.

      Palacios said the window for transmission of the Andes virus appears to be short, about a day. People are at their peak of infectiousness on the day they develop a fever.

      But the study also found that the virus could be passed relatively easily during this window, after periods of only brief proximity to someone else.

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      A flight attendant is now also suspected to be infected, so it could well be a strain with some human to human transmission.

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      My Mom’s a pediatric oncology nurse and she said basically the same thing about COVID. “What’s the big deal, it’s been around forever.” Then bam the world shutdown.

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        My Mom’s a pediatric oncology nurse and she said

        Dude, I’m sorry; it’s not the same thing. Virologists were freaking the fuck out about COVID-19. Your mom being qualified to nurse children with cancer does not qualify her literally at all to give a prediction on the virology of an emergent outbreak. You may as well have said she was a vet tech.

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          Some of the most medically uninformed people I have ever known has been nurses. They somehow all always want antibiotics to treat a (viral) cold.

          Yeah, yeah, “all” is an exaggeration, but I don’t trust a nurse’s medical knowledge any more than I do that of any other random person.

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        Totally valid. I guess it’s a balance between panicking too early (cruise ships are literally just big petrie dishes), and identifying a valid pandemic threat. Either way, for the moment I’m more worried about the mice in my house

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    lil bit of virus to speed up age/id verification
    governments are “scrambling” to trace people who were on that ship