• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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      8 hours ago

      the human to human narrative is being pushed by media pushed by cruise industry advert dollars.

      “We feed people rat shit” did not do well with focus groups.

      • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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        7 hours ago

        The idea of human-to-human transmission is not some kind of fringe media panic. The World Health Organization has acknowledged that it could be human-to-human.

        “We do believe ‌that there may ⁠be some human-to-human transmission that’s happening among the really close contacts, the husband and wife, people who have shared cabins,” Maria Van Kerkhove, the director of epidemic and pandemic preparedness and prevention at the WHO, told reporters in Geneva.

        It’s just that the spread would likely be limited, unlike COVID which is highly transmissible.

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          5 hours ago

          The thing you quote is a completely different situation than what the press is pushing around.

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            5 hours ago

            Care to share with the class? Is the Lügenpresse in the room with us right now? I just linked to “the press” who were pushing that WHO quote around.

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        7 hours ago
        • I’m not saying that human-to-human transmission isn’t possible. The WHO has acknowledged the possibility.
        • The point is that transmissibility is likely quite low, i.e. even if there’s human-to-human transmission, it’s unlikely to be severe.
        • “Got infected” in this case is “suspected of being infected”; we don’t know yet.
        • For your own health, please don’t read the New York Post. Anything worth reporting will have coverage in other, actually reliable, sources.
        • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          7 hours ago

          No, you said, and the WHO for that case, that it was “very complicated and required extended intimacy”. If the case is positive it would mean that person to person contagion of this particular strand of virus is way easier than expected.

          I don’t read that, not that you can say me what to read, you don’t have the ability to control what I chose to read, sorry. It was just the first result when googling the news.

          • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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            7 hours ago

            you don’t have the ability to control what I chose to read, sorry.

            What does the word “please” mean to you? It’s a well-informed suggestion, and you were always free to ignore it.

            As for the quote “very complicated and required extended intimacy”, can you point me to where the WHO has said that regarding this outbreak? Neither your article nor mine says those exact words.

            • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              7 hours ago

              https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/hantavirus-associated-cluster-illness-cruise-ship-ecdc-assessment-and

              “Person-to-person transmission of ANDV has only been documented following close and prolonged contact.”

              ECDC in this particular case. I’m quickly looking for quotes on my phone. But I doubt WHO have a different response. As the current academic knowledge of the virus is just that. The most studied case was of the Argentinian chilean epidemic when it was though that all contagions had close and intimate contact.

              If the flight attendant case is positive then we should reevaluate our knowledge on the virus.

                • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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                  30 minutes ago

                  If you’d read it, you would know:

                  At this early stage of the investigation with limited available information, we consider everyone on the ship to be close contacts, due to the closed setting and shared social areas and activities, aligned with the precautionary principle.

                  If a cruise ship is close and personal, a fuselage is obviously close and personal. The virologists are taking this into account; you’re not going to have any considerations they haven’t already thought of with 1000x more expertise and scrutiny.