• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Hasn’t it been revealed that Epstein is coordinating with oligarchs to promote conspiracy theories to dumb people down?

    I also want to say I noticed Americans seem to promote idiot kinds of conservatives like Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk. I’m not conservative, but there are far more intelligent conservative pundits, such as David Frumm and Roger Scruton, who make more sense. Oligarchs promote idiot individuals to control the narrative which, in turn, control the masses’ perception of reality.

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      Tbf that said

      Hasn’t it been revealed that Epstein is coordinating with oligarchs

      That’s called a conspiracy, the root words Con-(together) and Spiro-(to breathe), “conspiracy” means “to breathe together,” and the conspirators don’t even have to know they’re conspirators as long as they’re growing the same plant, to use a metaphor.

      So it isn’t that conspiracies don’t exist, by nature they do, it’s just which ones are based in reality and which ones are based elsewhere (mostly racism). The “conspiracy theory” that much of the world’s leaders are pedos making use of an immense human trafficking network ended up being true, the “conspiracy theory” that Epstein worked for Mossad to get blackmail material on said ring seems to have weight behind it (iirc it isn’t confirmed but there’s evidence for the claims), the FBI killed MLK (and lost TWO civil court cases about it), etc.

      Not everything is David Icke ass lizard people, some actually have teeth.

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    WRONG! It’s to makes us think more about things that ain’t real and are beyond yas control and less about how you’s getting screwed by the billionaires and how you got leverage against them

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    There absolutely are real conspiracies, USA mass surveillance, corporate control over media and censorship, social media amplifying autocratic propaganda while shadowbanning democratic content, big tech making propaganda easily accessible though text, image and video generation, fossil fuel oligarchs lobbying against change for the better, anything Epstein was doing, etc.

    No need to invent stuff.

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      22 hours ago

      USA mass surveillance isn’t a conspiracy theory because they’ve been pretty open about it.

      NSA warrantless surveillance was a huge topic in the 2000s and even involved a lot of litigation.

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            It’s not an anti journalism take. Journalism is valuable. I mean the american media landscape and the control mega corporations have over almost all of their popular media. Disney, WB and Netflix come to mind.

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              When people talk about “the media” they generally talk about the news broadcasts and talkshows which are extremely varied in opinions from John Oliver to Craig Melvin to Tucker Carlson. You even get some of them praising Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, or anti-democracy advocates, such as Tucker Carlson.

              Mergers and monopolies are a big issue, but to imply the CIA is running Fox News is pretty ludicrous. If anything it wouldn’t surprise me if the Murdoch family had a 10 point plan on toppling the US Government.

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        It used to be a conspiracy theory that the NSA and maybe other 3 letter agencies had closets at ISPs where they were slurping up all the traffic, later it turned out to be true around 2006 and they definitely weren’t open about it until whistleblowers started making noise.

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    The conspiracy isn’t “aliens don’t exist.”

    The conspiracy is “aliens do exist and the government is hiding them.”

    The government spreads this to hide actual secrets.

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      That’s a name they want you to react to, Semi. It’s a trigger phrase. You think that’s a coincidence? That’s how they tag citizens in the database!

      See, everybody thinks the conspiracy is whether aliens exist. That’s amateur hour. That’s what they feed the masses so they can feel smart arguing about it at the Mega Lo Mart checkout line.

      The real conspiracy… is that aliens absolutely exist, and the government needs you arguing about it. Keeps your eyes off the real operation—interdimensional trade agreements, cattle mutilation tax write-offs, and whatever’s going on in Nevada that smells like propane and betrayal.

      And you know how they keep it buried? They leak just enough “truth” to make it look crazy. Grainy photos, lunatics on late-night radio, a guy named “Dale”, who just happens to sound unhinged—yeah, I’m onto that too.

      That’s called narrative control, Semi. You don’t hide the truth—you poison it so nobody credible wants to touch it.

      So no, the conspiracy isn’t “aliens don’t exist.” That’s the decoy. The conspiracy is that they’ve turned the truth into a joke… and now anyone who gets close to it gets lumped in with me.

      …which is exactly what they want.

      pause

      Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to rotate my bug-out tuna supply. The cans have started listening.

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      Exactly. They spread partially incorrect info to hide the real info. Just like they started the flat earth movement to hide the fact that the earth is actually an oblong.

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            In the case of Paul Bennewitz, classified radio transmissions. They convinced him it was aliens and he died in a mental hospital.

            Then there was Kecksburg, where a classified spy satellite was deorbited and they just let folks believe it was an alien spacecraft.

            Same goes for all the Area 51 and Roswell stuff that helps hide experimental aircraft and secret operations behind a smoke screen of woo.

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                Bennewitz’s disinformation campaign has been confirmed. The USAF passed him fake documents and encouraged him to think they were UFOs. The book Mirage Men documents this in some detail.

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    There are tons of real conspiracies. There are tons of theories. Don’t trust your government or people wearing tin foil hats.

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      18 hours ago

      At this point, tin hat is more reliable. But yeah generally not the best resource.

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    This one is actually true, introducing conspiracy theories is a proven tactic to water down actual discourse on subjects like the Epstein files, data collection, crop-dusting, or Israeli committing genocide.