Stolen from r/marxism_memes
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1936: The Rights the U.S. Still Won’t Guarantee - Lady Izdihar (3 min 51 sex)
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Constitution of the Soviet Union - 8th All-Union Congress of Soviets
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This Soviet World / (Audiobook) - Anna Louise Strong (1936)
Stolen from r/marxism_memes
1936: The Rights the U.S. Still Won’t Guarantee - Lady Izdihar (3 min 51 sex)
Constitution of the Soviet Union - 8th All-Union Congress of Soviets
This Soviet World / (Audiobook) - Anna Louise Strong (1936)
People were not “betrayed by the party,” and socialists haven’t promised “utopia” though. I’m not white washing everything, it’s important to get an accurate understanding of genuine successes and genuine faults.
What I’m telling you now is part of my families personal history as ordinary workers who supported the Social Democratic party in the late 19th and early 20th century People did feel betrayed by the social democrats when they supported the first world war. I know that my family members thought that universal suffrage and the ability to vote for a party that said they had the workers best interests at heart would usher in a better world. For them there definitely a utopian aspect to socialism. After the first world war my great grandparents were like fuck that shit, they felt betrayed and didn’t bother joining the communist party anymore.
Did some edits just to make my writing less shitty.
I’m not sure what you’re talking about, considering the bolsheviks supported pulling out of World War I.
Lol, the Bolsheviks were a faction of the Russian social democratic party. I’m not Russian.
The bolsheviks supported pulling out of the war, and did. I’m not referring to non-communist parties, this meme itself is about the USSR. I’m not sure why you’re bringing in social democratic parties.
You do know that communist parties grew out of social democratic parties right? Seeing as my family members weren’t Russian it was kind of irrelevant for them what the Bolsheviks were doing they were sick of war, they were just were trying to scrape food together because at the end of the first world war people in continental Europe were starving and the idea of waging a class war for the radical section of the party that sent you into the war in the first place just seemed tiresome.
Anyways what I’m getting at is I kind of understand why so many people are cynical about socialism since for some people its not some crazy new radical idea, they’ve been burnt by politics before.
The Russian Social Democratic Party was a communist party, not what we think of as social democracy. I’m specifically talking about Russia, because Russia was the only country at the beginning of the 20th century to actually achieve socialism. Your family, unless I’m misreading you, isn’t what I’m talking about when advocating for socialism, because they never achieved it if they weren’t in Russia at the time of World War I.
I know what Social Democratic parties were, I’m trying to explain to you that some people were already disillusioned by what you call communist parties before the Bolsheviks had their revolution. I’m telling you I had family members who were part of the revolutionary proletariat before the Social Democratic communist split and by the time the first world war ended they were already disillusioned with the whole ideology.
Sure, but I don’t really think that’s universal.