• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.mlOP
    7·
    16 hours ago

    The Russian Social Democratic Party was a communist party, not what we think of as social democracy. I’m specifically talking about Russia, because Russia was the only country at the beginning of the 20th century to actually achieve socialism. Your family, unless I’m misreading you, isn’t what I’m talking about when advocating for socialism, because they never achieved it if they weren’t in Russia at the time of World War I.

    • Pissed@lemmy.ml
      14·
      16 hours ago

      I know what Social Democratic parties were, I’m trying to explain to you that some people were already disillusioned by what you call communist parties before the Bolsheviks had their revolution. I’m telling you I had family members who were part of the revolutionary proletariat before the Social Democratic communist split and by the time the first world war ended they were already disillusioned with the whole ideology.

        • Pissed@lemmy.ml
          13·
          14 hours ago

          It was a big part of why the Nazi party came to power and why so many people didn’t fight back against it people were so disillusioned with politics and the socialist parties had lost a lot of trust.

          By the time fascism was on the rise they were just in survival mode because they’d already seen one war and just wanted to survive the next one. It’s was hard to get a bunch of people to fight for an idea that has screwed them over already. It definitely wasn’t the right thing to do but it turns out not every one is a hero when it comes to fighting oppressive regimes even if they don’t like them. Enough people will just keep their heads down and try to survive.

          History isn’t something that just takes place in books it happened to real people who also play a role in shaping its outcome. The only reason I’m still doing leftist stuff is because I met Eric Hobsbawm (or im pretty sure it was him) and I promised him I’d keep fighting for a better future.

                • Pissed@lemmy.ml
                  11·
                  15 hours ago

                  More than just draining politics can get you killed. I edited my other post so idk if you saw it but just out of interest are you american? You don’t need to dox yourself it’s why I didn’t tell you which country I’m talking about, but you were close to guessing which social democratic party I’m talking about.