• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Those women have the worst jobs. It starts out fine, you’re just manipulating some idiot, maybe trying to milk him for his money or information.

    Then you end up as first lady of the United States, and you’re stuck and can’t escape.

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      6 hours ago

      It doesn’t start out fine. Imagine discovering that full diaper the first night. Though she probably already knew from the smell.

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    7 hours ago

    A real woman doesn’t say yes right away. She says no to a man, for years. Like 10 years.

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      11 hours ago

      I’ve known people in intelligence-related positions and learned that this really happens, and they do get approached by beautiful women at times. It’s incredibly obvious but I guess there are enough people out there desperate for the attention that it works enough to keep using it as a tactic. (People in intelligence are NOT like you see in Hollywood media, they’re mostly just normal schlubs with weird jobs and have all the same weaknesses and personality quirks as anyone else.)

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        The rule of thumb was always “models usually don’t seek out wallhuggers”. It’s frequent enough that there’s a help desk you’re supposed to call or email and let know when it happens who’ll walk you thru the steps so you can make sure you’re not being manipulated.

        … honestly, it’s service I wish was offered to civilians. State subsidized autism relationship advice hotline.

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          State subsidized autism relationship advice hotline.

          Not even kidding, this would probably help the whole of our society. This is why people flocked to Andrew Tate and his ilk.

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            I can’t imagine the therapy bills for the workers on the hotline but yeah it sure would address a lot of society’s problems wouldn’t it…

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              I used to basically do it. I was talking to young guys online since before Reddit, and then when Reddit blew up I was right there as well on the frontlines of a huge relationship-related subreddit doing the same thing. I never fancied myself an expert, but I am good at communication and a lot of these guys just needed help being explained how dating and relationships “work” and expect some kind of proceduralism around it.

              You can scream until you’re blue that it’s not a system with rules and levers you pull, but if someone is neurodivergent, they’re going to be stuck on “X leads to Y, which means Z” mentality about relationships, and then they will try to apply that thinking in real life, meet rejection or embarrassment and get really bitter and angry. Right wingers and grifters (but I repeat myself) seized onto this with a thousand different “systems” erupting like volcanos in Iceland, covering whole swaths of people with bullshit “redpill” and “PUA” bullshit.

              I tried. I really did. I had great success with the guys I focused on, but for every self-described incel who thanked me for helping turn their lives around, 30 more were waiting behind him, each angrier and more foul-mouthed than the last.

              It was too much, and it’s extremely exhausting.

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        10 hours ago

        Yeah James Bond was based off saboteuers not spies (specifically the unit the author was involved with). And a lot of intelligence work is just adversarial mathematics. Most spies are just ordinary people who are good at blending into the background and paying attention without seeming like it

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          They are also often just people who are good at listening. People who can hang out in social gatherings and get people to brag about themselves are some of the strongest assets in intelligence.

          People LOVE to brag and talk about privileged knowledge they have, so a large portion of the job is pretending to be having a good time and drinking while actually taking detailed notes about what everyone is saying and comparing those notes. I nearly ended up in that line of work but the story took a wild turn and I ended up losing my inside connection.