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  • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.deBanned from communitytoMemes@lemmy.mlIts not looking good..
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    I agree with you that the war on Gaza is worse than the war on Ukraine, as one of them is “only” imperialistic and the other is a genocide. We are on the same page here.

    The EU as a whole is not as supportive of Israel as Germany though, Germany is quite an outlier here. This can be explained (but not excused) by the special relationship between the ex Nazi country and the majority of Israels citizens being Jews. Still, supporting the israelian genocide is fucking disgusting, no question. Ireland, Slovenia and Spain are much more supportive of Gaza is also part of the truth though.

    I would support your idea of dismantling the us system, we are in the same page here as well, I am not that optimistic that this will get rid of fascism and capitalism though, Russia China and India and the EU will fill the void.

    I also agree with your take on climate change, while by pure numbers China is one of the largest emitter, given they produce most of the worlds goods, I think their climate efforts are honest and my hope is that they will stick to their plans of co2 reduction and be a valuable force for climate. China’s efforts here are very important and I respect them for that.

    I also agree with NATO needing to be dismantled, I dont agree with you that Russia is doing that. Look at trump and Putin, the invasion of Ukraine is not fighting against america or the NATO, its imperial landgrabing a non NATO state. And even if Putin would fight the NATO directly, I dont think this will benefit our class, we are the ones dying in the wars, hunger in the famines and getting arrested for fighting for solidarity amongst the international working class, a true change cannot come from a tyrann winning over another tyrann, it need to be a struggle by the people against the oppressors

    If you dont condemn an imperialistic country invading its small neighbour, you fight for the oppressor. War is never good for the working class, if you justify people dying in imperialistic wars, you are a class enemie in my eyes.

    For your las paragraph is where I find it to get interesting as we have the same opinion, that a democratical controlled public economy is better then privately owned means of production. From what I’ve read China is moving towards private ownerships of means if production then away from it and the actual public decision-making gets progressively less in favor of concentration of power for the political elites (https://www.statista.com/chart/25194/private-sector-contribution-to-economy-in-china/) (https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/articles/china-in-xis-new-era-the-return-to-personalistic-rule/)

    Here it would help to get the data straight, I’m open to critically over think my position here

    Your argument that USA is worse at nearly everything than nearly everyone else I would fully support.

    Apart from that there is an argument to be made, that Democratic votes dont mean shit if the discourse is not free, the regime decides what information you can get, what is allowed to be discussed publicly and what is not. Not only are there information like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_China also My fellow exchange students from China tell me you can’t talk critically about the regime, even in private conversations because you will face direct or indirect repercussions. Things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitzchung_controversy also play into this picture.

    A state where the working class is truely ruling needs a free working class who can freely from their opinion. This can’t be done in a surveillance state.

    I’m not saying there is no surveillance in the EU, just less then in China.

    Also also: being able to vote doesn’t make a country socialist or “not capitalistic”, if it would america would fall into this category as well.

    I think gramcis works are quite enlightening in that regard.


  • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.deBanned from communitytoMemes@lemmy.mlIts not looking good..
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    All valid criticism I would share (even if not to that degree) . That’s why I said its a capitalist hell hole and never celebrated anything (found your little strawman;)

    Now you tell me: in which of the three others mentioned in the meme the situation is better?

    P.S: There are a lot of pro Palestine demos, I go to them once a month, my grandpa is disabled and nearly everything is covered by inssurcance, I have never heard of censorship of pro Russian articles (but like Gaza, mainstream media will be very biased, which is a problem), trans people face no legal discrimination (but authoritarian and conservatives try to change that, which is a major problem)

    Dont get me wrong, I think the EU is an imperialistic system with lots of problems which need to be abolished in favor of a better, classless society. Still the material conditions to do that are better than in the 3 world powers at the moment




  • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.deBanned from communitytoMemes@lemmy.mlIts not looking good..
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    Not Europe, germany did. This cant be accepted and is one of the worst things they have done in recent years alongside with the judicial suppor and political backing up they give israel. This must be condemned and fought against.

    But since we are on the topic of war: who is supplying russia with the drones and fiber optics they use to invade Ukraine? Isnt that China? And isn’t xi giving Putin the same political backing?

    As I said: both capitalistic hell holes, but one has slightly less surveillance and slightly less political oppression.




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    Freedom of expression Freedom of assembly Surveillance state Freedom of press / censorship Privacy rights Medical security (at least better than USA and russia, dont know enough about chinas medical system to judge) Queer rights Climate destruction (EU is worse than china but better than Russia and USA by relative standards)

    Not to say anything of those is good here, just not as bad


  • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.deBanned from communitytoMemes@lemmy.mlIts not looking good..
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    I stated that the present EU is a hell hole, but oligarch Russia, imperialist america and authoritarian capitalist china are better at being a hell hole nothing more and nothing less.

    You imaging me not standing for Gaza or loving colonialism is typical tankie “if your not a Stalinist you must be a neoliberal” is so telling.

    You make up a picture in your head, where you are the good guys, everyone else is evil, and nuances dont exist. Same attitude as maga, puti lovers or ai fanboys, just different made up narrative.