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  • It is a proxy for an empire with even bigger bloodstains on its hands than Nazi Germany. The fact that NATO, and the US particularly, supports Ukraine to the point of making this war continue at all, rather than ending the same year it started, is evidence that the long term goals of empire are served by meeting Russia in the front. You might think it’s not fair to judge Ukraine for the actions or intentions of their supporters, but ultimately I’m concerned with the end of imperialism and capitalism; to “support” Ukraine (which in practice means supporting the military industrial complex) just means supporting my own oppression as a subject of American empire.


  • The ones who did in Crimea by voting to join Russia weren’t recognized internationally. In general though, if you’re in the middle of Ukraine and your family has lived there for centuries, even when Western backed fascists take over the country and start shelling you in the civil war, would you easily make the decision to leave for Russia instead of staying, trying to survive however you can? I think if people legitimately were invested in preserving the Ukrainian state’s territorial integrity, the press gangs wouldn’t be abducting people with vans, and the militias for the LPR and DPR wouldn’t have been able to recruit much of anyone at all.







  • You realize these things are true in Ukraine, in some cases more than even in Russia? And Ukraine was doing ethnic cleansing in the civil war for 8 years before Russia invaded, too, so if you want to apply this childish “I support the enemies of countries that do evil things” view instead of materialism, you could just as easily land on the conclusion that supporting Russia against fascist (vibes based definition) Ukraine is correct.

    If you did a materialist analysis and try to figure out what the forces at play are, which classes stand to gain from different outcomes, and why the ruling class interest of Western imperialist states are aligned the way they are, you’d probably arrive at a much better conclusion though.



  • First of all, you have no clue what you’re talking about if you think the “left” supports Ukraine. Bureaucratic neoliberal technocrats in the Democratic Party turning on the money printer for Zelensky are not the left. The left doesn’t exist in the US, at least not in a way that gives it agency about what foreign countries receive funding to do the US’ bidding. And if the PSL got in power just to give Nazis in Ukraines guns for them to do terrorism with for 20 years after this war ends and they think Europe betrayed them, the PSL would be doing a very silly thing (but it is in character for the Dems or Republicans to pursue this strategy, it’s just a repeat of operation Bloodstone, except this time they’re supporting the Nazis from day 1 instead of only after the war)

    Secondly, you’re looking at statements by pundits and influencers to figure out what the strategy of your enemies is. That’s really not very smart. If you were analyzing the collapse of the American Empire 100 years from now looking back, would you look at what Tucker Carlson was saying about Putin to discern what the state was trying to accomplish with its foreign policy? No, that’s silly. You would look at what foreign policy papers from the Heritage Foundation, the Brookings Institute, the Strategic Studies Institute, and whatever other think tanks were putting out. You’d look at hearings with strategists from those think tanks, military command, and economists. And what they have to say right now is pretty clear: they want to squeeze Ukraine for all it’s worth against Russia. They have no love for Russia.

    The posturing from right wing influencers that you’re talking about is essentially just culture war nonsense. They call the war in Ukraine a Democrat war as a culture war tactic, but that doesn’t actually reflect reality. I mean, FFS, John McCain was at Kyiv during Euromaidan shaking the hands of the nazi leader of the coup! To confuse the rhetoric of false promises to their base that they would stop funding Ukraine to put America first for anything other than a boldfaced lie, just like their lies about locking up Hillary or going after big tech, is a mistake that you make for thinking the spectacle is real.

    Finally, that’s a funny MTG quote, it is pretty clearly something someone fed her and I agree that I don’t think she could keep the names of Hungary and Transcarparthia in her head for more than 15 minutes. Which actually makes it pretty easy to answer why she would say it: one of her nazi staffers was telling her to implement one of the line items from some report from the Heritage Foundation/some other RW think tank outlining concessions to extract from Ukraine in pursuit of a nebulous goal? I honestly don’t get what Russia would get out of it if Ukraine ethnically cleansed Hungarians and Transcarparthians, so I don’t know if you actually meant that Russia was getting her to say that.


  • What socialists are saying is that Russia and the US are actually what they say the are: in opposition to each other. Liberals are the weird conspiracy theorists who believe that the Republican party is full of secret Russian traitors. At best, one may say that the GOP is more hostile to Europe than the liberals, which inevitably leads to Russia being in a stronger position with Europe left to fend for themselves (which the GOP is only comfortable with insofar as they can get Russia to split from China), while the liberal strategy has been to isolate Russia and drive them closer to China but hope that Europe is a strong enough ally to beat both.