• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    Here is the only issue I have with the pardon. Once Kamala lost, Biden should have started to go hog wild with last minute shenanigans in order to give Americans things they actually need. Instead he decided to pardon Hunter a full month before leaving office rather than helping us out and doing the pardon on the last day. Now, even if he does do things that will help Americans, nobody will notice because of the pardon.

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      Now, even if he does do things that will help Americans, nobody will notice because of the pardon.

      I don’t know why you’re so concerned for Genocide Joe’s legacy, but if his last 47 months are any indication, he’s unlikely to uncharacteristically give Americans what they actually need in his 48th.

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        Not my buddy Jim Crow Joe, it’s these damn Republican fascists he considers his friends who won’t let him make America great again

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    I’m sorry but the fact that people are so outraged with Biden for doing this is exactly why Kamala lost.

    Trump and the Democrats are held to completely different standards. Trump is willing to fight dirty to win at all costs, and that’s why he won. It sucks to hear but it’s true.

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      Democrats are also willing to fight dirty to win at all cost. They just did

      You are confused what winning means for them. It is not forgiving student loan or raising minimum wage.

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      You’re absolutely right that they dont fight dirty enough. Hiwever, I’d say that Democrats lost largely because Kamala was too cowardly to distance herself from biden and his awful policies. She lost because she chose to court moderate Republicans (who gave her the finger and voted for the fascist. Big surprise!).

      Biden pardoning his loser son does nothing for the most marginalized folks who will have to deal with Trump’s fascist regime in the coming year. It’s not a good look that the only time Biden “fights dirty” is to serve his own interests.

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    I literally don’t care about the Hunter pardon. Trump pardoned Russian spies. I think pardoning a child for a dumb drug offence is fine. 🤷‍♂️

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      I love how libs are utterly incapable of discussing things without using Trump for framing. He’s also not pardoning drug offenses, he’s pardoning the whole Burisma thing which is at the very least a FARA violation. That’s why the pardon is sweeping from the start of 2014.

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        And America has proven nobody cares except the Democrats who don’t vote for high horse reasons son who cares.

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        His son is hardly a child at 54 years old.

        I’m sure parents always will see their children as children, no matter their age.

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          I’m specifically talking about the silly framing of “a child” rather than “his child”

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        Going back three decades when everyone thought a “war on drugs” would be a good idea is also lazy to bring into this conversation. As President, Biden freed more victims of that war than all other presidents

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          1. Biden sponsored the crime bill that put those people behind bars in the first place.

          2. Biden abused his powers to pardon his son for crimes that other people will remain in prison for. Crimes that are more severely punished because of Biden.

          Its actually quite relevant to the conversation

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              Abused his power?

              Yes, I would say that pardoning your own son as president is a conflict of interest, unethical, and an abuse of power. It demonstrates that Hunter is above the laws that Joe Biden helped architect. I’m surprised that this sentiment is so controversial.

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      That is very cute but any time you start talking about Russian spies republicans can now say Hunter Biden. What you meant to say is you only care when Trump does it.

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        …That Biden specifically helped put there with his drug and police laws.

        Finished that sentence for you.

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      All drugs should be legal.

      We all know humanity will refuse to unclench our collective butthole regarding capitalism during our lives. At least let us get high as fuck on whatever we want while we wage slave to barely make it.

      Perhaps it’s more about the working class suffering then it is about money and power. Remarkable if that’s true.