It’s never the time
Right, we need to act outside the electoral system if we want real change, 100% agreed. How does spending 1 hour every few years to vote for a party who won’t round up your neighbours into ICE concentration camps, take away abortion rights, gut environmental regulations, and oppress your LGBT+ friends and family change that?
That’s the part I don’t get. Voting liberal/Democrat/whatever clearly helps MANY people materially. How does not voting help?
I’m in no way saying voting is enough, or voting will solve our problems, or get us out of neoliberalism. I’m just asking what material gain for your lives and the lives of oppressed people are you making by not voting that’s better than voting liberal?
Are you just hoping conservative victories will lead us to revolution through accelerationism? I just don’t get it.
accelerationism
Why are all of you all of a sudden using this term? And why is not one of you using it correctly? I am begging you to learn the words you use
The short answer is that democrats aren’t just not good enough, they are actively detrimental to all the causes you mentioned. Democrats expanded the ICE concentration camps (that Trump took over from Obama by the way), abortion rights were taken away under JOE BIDEN who DID NOTHING despite getting AMPLE WARNING, they likewise fuck over the environment and oppress queer people. So voting democrat clearly harms many people materially. Voting for them does not help.
THIS was the actual democratic party candidate
Chicago Police has had “black sites” for decades
Ferguson Riot leaders were assassinated and disappeared under Obama in a dem city with a dem governor [2]
American police used to (and still does) torture detainees [2]
Biden deported more than Trump 1
Biden expanded the concentration camps [2]
Biden was planning on doing mass deportations using ICE as well
Not to mention democrats are working with the republicans
90% of voters quit before voting finally fixes capitalism
One of the main problems, is that US liberals have no historical memory of the scale of atrocities committed by their party. Once they learn that history, they unavoidably have to come to terms with the truth that the US is a one-party state, with the democrats playing the controlled opposition wing, and the electoral contest is nothing more than theatre, or a rigged game at a casino where the house always wins.
Even just a cursory glance over the history of some of their recent leaders, like Obama, Biden, or Harris should be enough.
And when Democrats are finally elected, fully in power in all branches: “They just won, give them time.” “we won, why aren’t you satisfied?”
Then of course, Democrats as usual will just go on about how it’s time to move forward and do nothing against fascism because well, they all serve the same capitalist class so…
Dont forget that when Democrats lose its all our fault and when they win its proof they didn’t need us. Doesn’t really give me much of a reason to vote for them.
while their supporters say the dems either need more time or not enough were elected
They will usually point to the designated villain democrat or some piece of formalia like the parlamentarian. You know Zohran couldn’t replace the commissioner, think of the norms!
The funniest thing is it was actually the absolute norm for NYC Mayor to replace the police commisioner until Mamdani.
True. But lately their arguments have been not that acknowledging dems do that, just saying if there were more it would out weight those villains!..
perfect meme, no notes.
I’m just gonna assume anyone downvoting OP supports Western imperialism and murder for profit.
Smh you just dont get it. Its only bad when the other team does it and I have to pretend to give a shit. Dont you know all bad things started under Trump? Nobody even cared about ICE!
your assumption is not only correct, but also correct
