The women I had had in a friend group like that, that I’d known since childhood, got married and/or a demanding career, and then stopped having time to talk or do anything social.
And they don’t even have kids, life is still just too demanding for a social life to also exist.
And and, I am realtively odd in that I am a guy who grew up with more female close friends than male friends, who got invited to the otherwise girls-only Buffy/Firefly/etc semi-regular watch nights.
But your whole reply here is a non sequitir…
…he’s saying that women broadly, you know, women he doesn’t already know, loudly said “don’t approach us”, so, he didn’t.
Combine that with late stage capitalism is utterly exhausting, for everyone, and … women broadly put the burden on themselves to initiate any new relationships with new men, and then did not initiate any new platonic relationships with new men.
Your reply is ‘wait you just don’t already know a bunch of women?’ Yes, obviously, duh, its inherent in the premise of their statement, in the context of the post.
The whole thing at discussion here is meeting new people. Your answer is ‘what, you don’t just already know people?’
The whole thing at discussion here is meeting new people.
My reply was not to “the whole thing at discussion here”, it was to a specific comment from LouNeko, and about how he was raised in such a way that he belies that “there is no environment or time where an approach would be appreciated.”
…he’s saying that women broadly, you know, women he doesn’t already know, loudly said “don’t approach us”, so, he didn’t.
That’s not what he said. What he said was this:
I was raised on the premise that women want to be left alone and be independent which taught me that there is no environment or time where an approach would be appreciated.
He didn’t say “women” loudly said anything; only that he was “raised on the premise”, with no indication of who it was pushing that idea on him. Where did you get the idea that he’s affected by something that (some) women loudly said? Not from his comment, which is the sole basis for my reply.
This is an antagonistically useless thing to say.
I am willing to accept that my words might be useless. I utterly eject your accusation of antagonism. On the contrary, I’m deeply sympathetic to LouNeko’s plight. I asked about the nature of his friend group because it is an important aspect to escaping loneliness, not to give him shit about it. Ultimately my goal was to suggest to him that there is a crack in that premise, a route to escape through. That is to say, while it might be inappropriate to make passes at strangers, the friends of your friends are not strangers, and companionship might be there for him.
As for you: In my opinion, you likely misinterpreted my comment as antagonistic due to a hyper-vigilant instinct to white knight the victims of male loneliness (which is noble), or to defend men from women (which is kinda weird, but being broken-hearted makes us lash out, so I get it).
But your decision to reply to the fantasy of what you thought I meant rather than what I actually wrote is just a waste of my time and yours.
Where could he have possibly gotten the idea that women said they wanted to be left alone?
You have to be delusional to seriously ask this, either that or somehow entirely unaware of the last decade and a half of social media, of the internet, filled with literally millions of videos of women saying this.
You are sympathetic to Lou in the sense that you pity him after demeaning him. You are sympathetic, not empathetic, you concieve of him as an alien other. Your ‘advice’ was just an insult, it was utterly useless, and obviously so.
You’d have to think that he had a friend circle that he just wasn’t leveraging, for your ‘advice’ to make any sense, which would imply he is an idiot who couldn’t think of that on his own.
You are now pathologizing me like you pathologized him, and you finish spending a bunch of time writing to me to conclude that writing a reply to me was a waste of time, another contradiction hiding another insult.
You can keep honking your clown horn if you want, I’ll never be communicating with such a monstrously disingenuous person as yourself ever again.
I would certainly hate to meet the imaginary person you think you’re arguing with. It must be awful to live with such a creature inhabiting your brain. But I gladly accept your offer to cut off communication with me, since you seemed determined to use me as a target for undeserved rage. If you’d like to see what an actual insult looks like, then just this once I will oblige:
The women I had had in a friend group like that, that I’d known since childhood, got married and/or a demanding career, and then stopped having time to talk or do anything social.
And they don’t even have kids, life is still just too demanding for a social life to also exist.
And and, I am realtively odd in that I am a guy who grew up with more female close friends than male friends, who got invited to the otherwise girls-only Buffy/Firefly/etc semi-regular watch nights.
But your whole reply here is a non sequitir…
…he’s saying that women broadly, you know, women he doesn’t already know, loudly said “don’t approach us”, so, he didn’t.
Combine that with late stage capitalism is utterly exhausting, for everyone, and … women broadly put the burden on themselves to initiate any new relationships with new men, and then did not initiate any new platonic relationships with new men.
Your reply is ‘wait you just don’t already know a bunch of women?’ Yes, obviously, duh, its inherent in the premise of their statement, in the context of the post.
The whole thing at discussion here is meeting new people. Your answer is ‘what, you don’t just already know people?’
This is an antagonistically useless thing to say.
My reply was not to “the whole thing at discussion here”, it was to a specific comment from LouNeko, and about how he was raised in such a way that he belies that “there is no environment or time where an approach would be appreciated.”
That’s not what he said. What he said was this:
He didn’t say “women” loudly said anything; only that he was “raised on the premise”, with no indication of who it was pushing that idea on him. Where did you get the idea that he’s affected by something that (some) women loudly said? Not from his comment, which is the sole basis for my reply.
I am willing to accept that my words might be useless. I utterly eject your accusation of antagonism. On the contrary, I’m deeply sympathetic to LouNeko’s plight. I asked about the nature of his friend group because it is an important aspect to escaping loneliness, not to give him shit about it. Ultimately my goal was to suggest to him that there is a crack in that premise, a route to escape through. That is to say, while it might be inappropriate to make passes at strangers, the friends of your friends are not strangers, and companionship might be there for him.
As for you: In my opinion, you likely misinterpreted my comment as antagonistic due to a hyper-vigilant instinct to white knight the victims of male loneliness (which is noble), or to defend men from women (which is kinda weird, but being broken-hearted makes us lash out, so I get it).
But your decision to reply to the fantasy of what you thought I meant rather than what I actually wrote is just a waste of my time and yours.
Holy shit, you are a clown.
Where could he have possibly gotten the idea that women said they wanted to be left alone?
You have to be delusional to seriously ask this, either that or somehow entirely unaware of the last decade and a half of social media, of the internet, filled with literally millions of videos of women saying this.
You are sympathetic to Lou in the sense that you pity him after demeaning him. You are sympathetic, not empathetic, you concieve of him as an alien other. Your ‘advice’ was just an insult, it was utterly useless, and obviously so.
You’d have to think that he had a friend circle that he just wasn’t leveraging, for your ‘advice’ to make any sense, which would imply he is an idiot who couldn’t think of that on his own.
You are now pathologizing me like you pathologized him, and you finish spending a bunch of time writing to me to conclude that writing a reply to me was a waste of time, another contradiction hiding another insult.
You can keep honking your clown horn if you want, I’ll never be communicating with such a monstrously disingenuous person as yourself ever again.
I would certainly hate to meet the imaginary person you think you’re arguing with. It must be awful to live with such a creature inhabiting your brain. But I gladly accept your offer to cut off communication with me, since you seemed determined to use me as a target for undeserved rage. If you’d like to see what an actual insult looks like, then just this once I will oblige:
You are very tedious company.