• mobyduck648@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    You’re bringing up fucking Kipling of all people, the one poet everyone knows for being mega into colonialism. That’s like me pointing at the Grateful Dead while saying Americans need to lay off the acid.

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      2 hours ago

      One of England’s favorite poets for a long time until explicit racism (in public) was no longer de rigueur.

      He’s a perfectly valid example of the feelings of the nation at that time.

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        2 hours ago

        It’s a cherry-picked example if I ever saw one, I could just as well go and point at Wilberforce to underline early 19th century attitudes to slavery and I’d be making the same error as this.

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          8 minutes ago

          You cannot use the term “cherry-picked” to refer to a man who was such a prominent cultural icon. His art captured the essence of an era.

          It’s even more valid when taken in light of more recent wars of colonial aggression involving the UK in which the terminology and lies used mirror the justifications of the 19th century and the behavior and attitude of the UK government towards former colonies when it comes to the topic of reparations and the belated return of stolen artifacts.