• HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Meh. I’ve learned some interesting things from some people I found a bit annoying.

    It’s how I’ve come from card-carrying Republican to more or less fitting the label “progressive.”

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      I think this is for people who are less “annoying” and more “actively lying and being bad faith.” If someone says the elections were stolen, vaccines cause autism, and liberals hate America, I have other things I would rather do than investigate every one of the infinite conspiracy theories that I already know many others have debunked. It’s essentially an exercise in bad faith rhetoric at that point, which is just so incredibly boring. I’ll look into a few to see the patterns of how they lie, and then I’m good.

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        13 hours ago

        I think this is for people who are less “annoying” and more “actively lying and being bad faith.”

        It can easily be co-opted by people willing to block either, as evidenced by the flame war in the comments here; the post suggests “I don’t like this” -> Block. I don’t like annoying people. I also don’t like people arguing in bad faith.

        This is further complicated by the fact that a lot of people misconstrue good faith arguments from very different points of view with bad faith arguments. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been labeled as someone arguing in bad faith because my view differed from theirs and I didn’t immediately reverse my stance when confronted, or someone simply can’t read very well (literacy rates being what they are these days).

        In part, this is because trolls sometimes like to be very subtle and drag a conversation out for 50 comments.

        In part, this is because people are dumb and/or paranoid and don’t understand that people with other apparent viewpoints might not be trolls.

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        2 days ago

        That’s a very heavy lifting interpretation of the comic. It literally says “I don’t like this thing”. Not “this person is arguing in bad faith”. This is how echo chambers form, and lemmy is a textbook example of one.

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          Well maybe bad faith wasn’t the right term, I think for me it’s just that if someone disagrees with me, my response is almost never even close to “I don’t like this,” unless they’re being hateful, unreasonably rude, saying proven false conspiracies, etc. Most of the time it’s “oh I think they don’t realize or haven’t considered xyz” and most of the time either they didn’t know or they correct me on something.

          For things I would block, if a racist maga person comes in and says something, I gain absolutely nothing from hearing how climate change is fake, how libs are the real racists, how we hate trump for no reason. It’s just negativity conspiracy brainrot and it’s a huge waste of my time. Same for posts about what random out of touch billionaire #45 said, same for people generally being mean or super negative towards others, that’s what I actually don’t like and am happier having blocked it to never see again.