• ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 hours ago

    Yet Becoming requires you to go from Nothing to something, or stop Being something to introduce enough Nothing to become something new.

    Why not just becoming something from a state of something else…nothing is not really required for becoming.

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      5 hours ago

      This is could both be an excellent question or a less interesting one :p

      The less interesting one is answered that by Being you are, and thus cannot become. (Just as u/toofpic describes)

      The excellent question is why we can’t Become when already Being, or why we can’t unBecome from Nothing. For that we’d have to read more Hegel to understand the context.

      Why is it that when you take away from Nothing, nothing happens? It makes intuitive sense, but why must it be so? What would happen if it weren’t so?

      Hegel suggests that the qualities of purest Being and purest Nothing are the same, and that’s why the Becoming takes them into eachother.

      I don’t know that that’s useful though, someone else care to explain?

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          31 minutes ago

          The concept of Nothingness?

          Or closer to Hegel: Nothing is the lack of all differentiation and content, and thus absolutely undifferentiated.

          Pure Being is without further differentiation, it has no diversity within itself, and is thus also absolutely undifferentiated.

          Nothing is pure Being (and with some other arguments the reverse is also true), they are inseparable and unseparated, yet distinct. And Hegel argues that the Becoming is the movement of one into the other, distinguishing them for a moment only to be resolved again.

          You can read it yourself in Hegel’s Science of Logic

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      7 hours ago

      It’s probably said from the point, that something that was, theough changes, becomes less that. So, more nothing, in a way.
      But really, I love philosophyzing, but I’m not calling it a job. It’s like a monk is just sitting there chilling, but if you confront him about not working, he will answer: “bitch, it took me years to learn chilling that hard!”

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        5 hours ago

        Don’t short change yourself, with enough time, effort and application you could still get a degree in the humanities, that’s basically what they do :p

        For real, philosophy was mostly around before we figured out empiricism and scientific methods. People had to think quite a lot to come up with models that made internal and validated sense even without evidence. And we still have a lot of stuff we can’t test, but that we wonder about (theology, paranormal stuff, hard solipsism, “before” Big Bang, etc), we just have stricter requirements and more developed methods that we call differently.