• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    You’re right Poroshenko saying they will live in cellars and Ukraine bombing civilian population since 2014 absolutely does not say ethnic cleansing. There’s a literal statement of intent there to remove Russian speaking population. And then there’s a genocide case at the UN. I bet you haven’t even opened a single link before writing your vapid comment.

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      Poroshenko saying stupid shit does not proof your claim in any way. And you mean the case submitted by Ukraine at the ICJ where the ICJ stated that it had found no evidence of a genocide of Russians by Ukraine?

      Also Poroshenko was describing the current situation in Donbas under the occupation by pro-Russian militants, not declaring a future policy.

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        The only good thing to come out of this Ukraine war is the absolute economic destruction of the EU. Sure, Russia suffered as well, but I’m just really glad Europe will soon become irrelevant for the most part. Not that they don’t deserve worse, but we’ll settle for irrelevance

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            The eu steals from its members and gives to germany & co. They also engage in election manipulation. Destroying it liberates the people in the non-core eu countries from those thieves. Therefore, not accelerationism.

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              24 hours ago

              Wanting to destroy a system to liberate people from it is literally the definition of accelerationism regardless of what you call it.

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                That’s so fucking stupid. Apparently wanting to destroy the system of apartheid in South Africa was also accelerationism, as was the abolitionist movement trying to end the system of slavery in the nineteenth century. You people will just say anything, regardless of whether it makes sense. Deeply fucking unserious.

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                  16 hours ago

                  Anti-imperialism is opposing domination. Celebrating that 450 million people will suffer economic destruction is not opposing imperialism, it is just enjoying the suffering. Those are different things.

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                19 hours ago

                You can’t force me to accept your personal made-up definition.

                No matter how authorative you try to sound.

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        Sure buddy, the president saying the regime aims to commit ethnic cleansing while they openly attack civilians doesn’t prove shit. You keep on telling yourself that. I love also immediately rush to how you dehumanize the victims as ‘pro-Russian’ militants. Oh and of course, we can just look at what’s happening in Ukraine today, I can only assume your firm support must be over shared values https://nv.ua/ukr/lifestyle/spisok-pidarasiv-u-budanova-pomitili-nezvichniy-bloknot-50603357.html

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          I mean he did not say what you claim as I have already told you. Simply repeating it does not make it true.

          Also I have no clue what you try to tell me with that article.

          So where are we on ethnic cleansing? Still nowhere it seems.