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    1 day ago

    Poroshenko saying stupid shit does not proof your claim in any way. And you mean the case submitted by Ukraine at the ICJ where the ICJ stated that it had found no evidence of a genocide of Russians by Ukraine?

    Also Poroshenko was describing the current situation in Donbas under the occupation by pro-Russian militants, not declaring a future policy.

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      The only good thing to come out of this Ukraine war is the absolute economic destruction of the EU. Sure, Russia suffered as well, but I’m just really glad Europe will soon become irrelevant for the most part. Not that they don’t deserve worse, but we’ll settle for irrelevance

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          The eu steals from its members and gives to germany & co. They also engage in election manipulation. Destroying it liberates the people in the non-core eu countries from those thieves. Therefore, not accelerationism.

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            19 hours ago

            Wanting to destroy a system to liberate people from it is literally the definition of accelerationism regardless of what you call it.

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              That’s so fucking stupid. Apparently wanting to destroy the system of apartheid in South Africa was also accelerationism, as was the abolitionist movement trying to end the system of slavery in the nineteenth century. You people will just say anything, regardless of whether it makes sense. Deeply fucking unserious.

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                Anti-imperialism is opposing domination. Celebrating that 450 million people will suffer economic destruction is not opposing imperialism, it is just enjoying the suffering. Those are different things.

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                    Destroying an economy hurts workers and ordinary people first, not the ruling class. If your anti-imperialism requires 450 million people to suffer so the powerful lose power, that is just accelerationism with a nicer label.

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              14 hours ago

              You can’t force me to accept your personal made-up definition.

              No matter how authorative you try to sound.

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      Sure buddy, the president saying the regime aims to commit ethnic cleansing while they openly attack civilians doesn’t prove shit. You keep on telling yourself that. I love also immediately rush to how you dehumanize the victims as ‘pro-Russian’ militants. Oh and of course, we can just look at what’s happening in Ukraine today, I can only assume your firm support must be over shared values https://nv.ua/ukr/lifestyle/spisok-pidarasiv-u-budanova-pomitili-nezvichniy-bloknot-50603357.html

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        I mean he did not say what you claim as I have already told you. Simply repeating it does not make it true.

        Also I have no clue what you try to tell me with that article.

        So where are we on ethnic cleansing? Still nowhere it seems.

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          I don’t know where are we on ethnic cleansing when the current Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine keeps a notebook of subraces. I guess we’ll never know what this could possibly mean.

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                I mean you could have simply conseded the point instead of hammering down on your mistake.

                Look at the notebook and show me the word that translates to what you claim it does.

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                    Never seen someones argument fall apart so hard after manouvering themselves into a corner.

                    The wall of links, nothingburgers, the president who apparently said everything out loud taken completely out of context and then the dramatic notebook. A mistranslation that lead you into believing something to be true just because you wish for it to be so.