Oh sure, lemme just pull out all this disposable income and time I have for drinks, cab fair. Yea its definitely within budget to spend $50 round trip traveling + $50 buying rounds + $30 food + etc etc etc.
For sure I can do that 3-4 times a week to be social. That’s only like ~$500 a week. Or ya know what, maybe we just cut down to like twice a week, thats only $1k a month. Who cant afford that, right?
Ya know what, maybe we just need to cut some costs. Hmmm cab fair is expensive, let’s just drive! That’s easier anyways, let’s get drunk and drive a couple days a week because we cant afford to be responsible AND sociable…
EDIT: actually, know what, I thought up another way to save some money. Lets save some money on food. We can’t afford to be eating out all the time anyways. So yea, lets go out, drink on an empty stomach and drive home. Making some changes! Making friends! Going out and being social!
Sounds like a very car centric lifestyle. I moved to a bike friendly city and my outings cost much less. A six pack of beer from the store will last me two nights out. A night out might be biking to a friend’s place for board game night or doing a group bike ride with stops on the way. Night out costs like 5usd. Granted, that’s not the only socializing I do, but in the summer especially I bike or walk 99% of the time.
Drive to each others places and don’t drink. You don’t need alcohol to have a good time with friends. Hang out online. Meet people who live in walking distance.
None of these options is perfect; we’d rather be able to meet exactly whom we want, and do exactly what we want when together. But the topic is socialising, not socialising in exactly the way we prefer.
Most of my friends don’t live in the same city as me, so it’s not easy for me either. But by one method and another I still have social contact.
You can save money on food if you steal it and save money on alcohol if you steal it and drink somewhere you’re not allowed to be instead of a bar and have a designated driver or use a bustrain which is just lots of busses hitched together but usually only like two anyway maybe learn something from queer culture this is why the second half of being gay is doing crimes it just seems like all your socializing is investing in conspicuous consumption stuff and you can just not 9r even get together with your friends to like build stuff or whatever I promise there’s options
But seriously, it’s crazy to think that people can’t afford to go out because of transportation costs. When I was in my 20 I would just walk to the city center or take a tram, drink $1 beers and go back home in a bus. Now I take $2 train. It’s so sad that Americans built their shitty system on purpose.
No you can totally still do these kinds of things in cities in the US. You just have to sacrifice other things like space, car, etc and a lot of people that grew up in suburbs aren’t willing to do that.
There’s places to live where you don’t have to drive. Your attitude suggests that will not happen where you live within your lifetime.
I’m not sure if you have the ability to move, but it could cut down on transportation costs for going out. It would probably save money on daily commutes as well.
What’s your monthly streaming bill? (Hoping you say $0 because YAAARRRRR!)
I’m not trying to presuppose everyone’s lives or say they have to be a certain way. But we can do things to be with people that doesn’t cost money or even involve drinking. I realize that I live in a very walkable, highly mass-transit-friendly, extremely accessible city. BUT, spending time with friends, playing games, riding a bike, walking, etc., are all ways to stop streaming and make changes.
I get it. You’re trying to unseat my statement as insensitive to your plight. I meant it in good faith, though. There was a time before smart phones and limitless streaming. We hung out, we played music, we read books, we drew, we painted, we lived. We can still do it.
It’s hard. I’m trying. I try to draw every day. I spend time writing for a D&D game I DM for. I write music and try to get through the dumb darkness we’re living in. Streaming comes at the end of the night when I am going to bed.
Good luck. I wish more social life and socialism for everyone. :)
Or have a beer or two over the course of 5 hours as you chat with people then double check you’ve sobered up and drive home. The idea that one has to get hammered to go to a bar is crazy.
Hell I used to go to nights out at a board game bar, got a veggie burger, a glass of mead or a cocktail, played for a few hours, then drove home fine, for like $60 between the wife and I. Only stopped because I moved away.
It’s not too late to change your ways.
That would require friends, which is a factor beyond my control…
Not 100% under your control, but certainly not “beyond control”
Oh sure, lemme just pull out all this disposable income and time I have for drinks, cab fair. Yea its definitely within budget to spend $50 round trip traveling + $50 buying rounds + $30 food + etc etc etc.
For sure I can do that 3-4 times a week to be social. That’s only like ~$500 a week. Or ya know what, maybe we just cut down to like twice a week, thats only $1k a month. Who cant afford that, right?
Ya know what, maybe we just need to cut some costs. Hmmm cab fair is expensive, let’s just drive! That’s easier anyways, let’s get drunk and drive a couple days a week because we cant afford to be responsible AND sociable…
EDIT: actually, know what, I thought up another way to save some money. Lets save some money on food. We can’t afford to be eating out all the time anyways. So yea, lets go out, drink on an empty stomach and drive home. Making some changes! Making friends! Going out and being social!
Sounds like a very car centric lifestyle. I moved to a bike friendly city and my outings cost much less. A six pack of beer from the store will last me two nights out. A night out might be biking to a friend’s place for board game night or doing a group bike ride with stops on the way. Night out costs like 5usd. Granted, that’s not the only socializing I do, but in the summer especially I bike or walk 99% of the time.
Drive to each others places and don’t drink. You don’t need alcohol to have a good time with friends. Hang out online. Meet people who live in walking distance.
None of these options is perfect; we’d rather be able to meet exactly whom we want, and do exactly what we want when together. But the topic is socialising, not socialising in exactly the way we prefer.
Most of my friends don’t live in the same city as me, so it’s not easy for me either. But by one method and another I still have social contact.
You can save money on food if you steal it and save money on alcohol if you steal it and drink somewhere you’re not allowed to be instead of a bar and have a designated driver or use a bustrain which is just lots of busses hitched together but usually only like two anyway maybe learn something from queer culture this is why the second half of being gay is doing crimes it just seems like all your socializing is investing in conspicuous consumption stuff and you can just not 9r even get together with your friends to like build stuff or whatever I promise there’s options
Just move to Europe. /s
But seriously, it’s crazy to think that people can’t afford to go out because of transportation costs. When I was in my 20 I would just walk to the city center or take a tram, drink $1 beers and go back home in a bus. Now I take $2 train. It’s so sad that Americans built their shitty system on purpose.
No you can totally still do these kinds of things in cities in the US. You just have to sacrifice other things like space, car, etc and a lot of people that grew up in suburbs aren’t willing to do that.
There’s places to live where you don’t have to drive. Your attitude suggests that will not happen where you live within your lifetime.
I’m not sure if you have the ability to move, but it could cut down on transportation costs for going out. It would probably save money on daily commutes as well.
Ah yes, “just move” man, I wonder why people didn’t think of that? It’s so simple!
I get what you’re saying, but it’s the equivalent of telling a depressed person “have you tried being happy?”.
As an external observer to this conversation, you’re not reading taking part in good faith. Try to understand the intention of their replies.
I did everything I could to not say “just move” while still giving it as an option.
What I was trying to say is that there are more options than owning a car. Find other means of transit. Vote for other means of transit.
If you are stuck, I am sorry.
What’s your monthly streaming bill? (Hoping you say $0 because YAAARRRRR!)
I’m not trying to presuppose everyone’s lives or say they have to be a certain way. But we can do things to be with people that doesn’t cost money or even involve drinking. I realize that I live in a very walkable, highly mass-transit-friendly, extremely accessible city. BUT, spending time with friends, playing games, riding a bike, walking, etc., are all ways to stop streaming and make changes.
I get it. You’re trying to unseat my statement as insensitive to your plight. I meant it in good faith, though. There was a time before smart phones and limitless streaming. We hung out, we played music, we read books, we drew, we painted, we lived. We can still do it.
It’s hard. I’m trying. I try to draw every day. I spend time writing for a D&D game I DM for. I write music and try to get through the dumb darkness we’re living in. Streaming comes at the end of the night when I am going to bed.
Good luck. I wish more social life and socialism for everyone. :)
This is why trains are awesome.
Bro ur justifying being anti social to urself. Go out once a week with a group of friends get fucked up blow a couple hundred bucks its fine.
Or have a beer or two over the course of 5 hours as you chat with people then double check you’ve sobered up and drive home. The idea that one has to get hammered to go to a bar is crazy.
Hell I used to go to nights out at a board game bar, got a veggie burger, a glass of mead or a cocktail, played for a few hours, then drove home fine, for like $60 between the wife and I. Only stopped because I moved away.
Veggie burger oof that tells me everything I need to know.
That I don’t eat meat? It was an excellent veggie burger, and my wife quite liked their meaty options.