• DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
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    20 hours ago

    Are you really suggesting that there isn’t a chilling effect on people who want to improve the status quo when they see the party nakedly manipulating the outcome? With this being exactly four years after the DNC nakedly manipulated the system in ways that had since been exhaustively documented, I’d say it massively suppressed the progressive vote, and Warren staying in far too long and splitting that vote before endorsing Biden sealed the deal.

    Three election cycles in a row the party has nakedly and unashamedly manipulated things to ensure a donor-friendly candidate. In 2024 there wasn’t even a primary, despite everyone knowing Biden couldn’t handle another campaign.

    At this point anyone who finds the status quo unacceptable and still votes for the Democrats is obviously a graduate of the Charlie Brown School of Field Goal Kicks.

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      18 hours ago

      Are you really suggesting that those people are being somehow prevented from voting, just because the establishment wants them to stay home?

      How weak-minded do you think people are, if all it takes to get them to give up, is to tell them they’ll never win? Again…this is why we’re here, now.

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        8 hours ago

        Are you really suggesting that those people are being somehow prevented from voting, just because the establishment wants them to stay home?

        No, I’m suggesting that those people are (correctly) realizing that the game is rigged and refusing to play. Your narrative that progressives could win if they showed up has been repeatedly proven to be a lie, fewer people believe it each election cycle, you cannot change the status quo by doing what the people who profit from the status quo want you to do. The Democrats are not the opposition to the GOP, they are the compliment to them. They exist to make the Wall St agenda palatable by comparison. Their only purpose is to ensure the gullible retain enough faith in the system to prevent any meaningful revolt.

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        14 hours ago

        The establishment overall doesn’t care if people vote, because they already pre-select the candidates. Capitalists control the state because capitalists control the commanding heights of industry and finance, they have political power, and therefore even if a leftist was elected they would not be able to actually command the state to follow along and establish socialism.