The entire west is using Ukraine as a battering ram to damage geopolitical enemies, while harvesting it for rare Earths and resources, saddling it with debt and disrupting peace talks. The west has no virtuous intent here.
I mean it’s not a hypothetical. They won. So you can see what they did after they won. The fact that they wanted a vietnam free of colonialism is testified by the fact that they freed vietnam from colonialism.
It’s the material reality. The fact Vietnam was fighting a common enemy clearly helped but the core of support was the same as the reason they supported African liberation, to bring an end to colonialism. I think bringing an end to imperialism and colonialism is an unambiguous good. “Virtue” is nonsense anyway might as well talk about sins or ontological good and evil. The material outcomes is all that matters.
The entire west is using Ukraine as a battering ram to damage geopolitical enemies, while harvesting it for rare Earths and resources, saddling it with debt and disrupting peace talks. The west has no virtuous intent here.
And you think Russia had virtuous intent helping Vietnam?
Yes.
“We have bad intent so everyone else does too”
Yes the Soviets and Chinese of the time very much wanted Vietnam to be free of colonialism just like in Korea.
It’s so sweet that you think that.
Um yikes sweaty, how cute
I mean it’s not a hypothetical. They won. So you can see what they did after they won. The fact that they wanted a vietnam free of colonialism is testified by the fact that they freed vietnam from colonialism.
It’s the material reality. The fact Vietnam was fighting a common enemy clearly helped but the core of support was the same as the reason they supported African liberation, to bring an end to colonialism. I think bringing an end to imperialism and colonialism is an unambiguous good. “Virtue” is nonsense anyway might as well talk about sins or ontological good and evil. The material outcomes is all that matters.