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minus-squareKimBongUn420@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up7arrow-down1·1 day agoNo it’s not https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down5·1 day agoWhat appeals to you about that text?
minus-squareKimBongUn420@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up8arrow-down1·1 day agoHow authority is defined and how Engels actually logically provides an answer to the question whether organization without authority is possible
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down8·1 day agoA short ‘logical’ essay can give any answer in an abstract sense, but that doesn’t discount empirical examples. Always seemed to me like Engels begs the question, takes “anarchy = chaos” as a starting assumption.
minus-squaretechpeakedin1991@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up7·1 day agoEmpirical examples… that you have not provided?
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up2arrow-down8·1 day agoIt’s trivially easy to think of examples of “organisation without authority” in nature, in history, in software.
minus-squareKimBongUn420@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up11·1 day agoProvide a trivially easy example that you can think of (in the concrete sense) and let’s examine it together
minus-squarefrightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up1arrow-down11·1 day agoYou provide one, you have a brain, you don’t need me to spoonfeed you.
minus-squareKimBongUn420@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up8arrow-down1·1 day agoI provided you not only one, but two (cotton spinning wheel and railway example), assuming you’re familiar with Engels text. I see you’re either scared to be challenged ideologically or it’s not as trivially easy as you make it seem to be.
No it’s not https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm
What appeals to you about that text?
How authority is defined and how Engels actually logically provides an answer to the question whether organization without authority is possible
A short ‘logical’ essay can give any answer in an abstract sense, but that doesn’t discount empirical examples.
Always seemed to me like Engels begs the question, takes “anarchy = chaos” as a starting assumption.
Empirical examples… that you have not provided?
It’s trivially easy to think of examples of “organisation without authority” in nature, in history, in software.
Provide a trivially easy example that you can think of (in the concrete sense) and let’s examine it together
You provide one, you have a brain, you don’t need me to spoonfeed you.
“Prove my point for me”
I provided you not only one, but two (cotton spinning wheel and railway example), assuming you’re familiar with Engels text.
I see you’re either scared to be challenged ideologically or it’s not as trivially easy as you make it seem to be.
Such as?