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    AI have made pirating legal, as long as you are not pirating for personal enjoyment. Isn’t that the defence the AI companies have used successfully?

    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Its just tribal politics.

      While authority exists, everything it can touch is tribal politics and bullshit abstraction layers on top of them. Literally everything.

      And terrorism. Tribal politics and terrorism.

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    9 hours ago

    May all lawyers involved die in the most horrible way possible. Actually scratch that, May all corporate lawyers regardless of involvement die in the most horrible way possible. ☺️

  • ɯᴉuoʇuɐ@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Apparently it’s legal and acceptable to demand, through a court, enough money to destroy the world economy.

    Seriously, if I were the judge I’d throw out the lawsuit until they come up with a remotely realistic number. As it is, it makes the whole lawsuit look like a joke.

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      The gratuitous vulgar nonsense of it is the point. Its LBJ slapping his cock on the desk during a serious meeting to drive home that you cant fucking stop him

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      The whole lawsuit is a joke.

      And it should be permanently thrown out and not seen again because of how unserious that number is.

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    22 hours ago

    Is this the music industry asking for more than all the money in the world again?

    Yes, I did say again.

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    21 hours ago

    we have stood with the artist community against piracy

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but Anna’s archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

    over a massive music data scrape

    So when are you going to sue AI companies?

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      Correct me if I’m wrong, but Anna’s archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

      Were they not going to release the songs as well? They just started with the metadata?

      ETA: Yes, this is from their blog post about it:

      The data will be released in different stages on our Torrents page:

      [X] Metadata (Dec 2025)
      [ ] Music files (releasing in order of popularity)
      [ ] Additional file metadata (torrent paths and checksums)
      [ ] Album art
      [ ] .zstdpatch files (to reconstruct original files before we added embedded metadata)

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        You can’t sue people for something they haven’t done yet. Presumably if and when the actual music files are released the damages will go up proportionally - probably to something like $(volume of the universe / Planck distance^3)

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          I am not sure the shareholders will accept such a meager compensation. Did you include emotional damage in your estimate?

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      Correct me if I’m wrong, but Anna’s archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

      200gb meta, 300tb music. Just 300tb not released yet. Might be, might not.

      So when are you going to sue AI companies?

      I think some sue suno and settle for money. And GEMA (germany) sue openai for songtext.

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    Spotify doesn’t even have that much net worth how the hell one can steal more than that anyway? Also this isn’t even stealing just a digital copy sent by spotify servers

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      Spotify doesn’t even have that much net worth how the hell one can steal more than that anyway?

      Because it was stolen already. By Anna’s archive. Isn’t that obvious!?

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      Probably theorizing every potential peer is pulling the whole archive.
      So net worth * 100.000 potential peers = $$$

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    $13.000.000.000.000

    Like, are we 12 now? I too would come up with these bazonker numbers at that age.

    Fuck Spotify,fuck the current legal system that got us here

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      The higher the number, the more the stock goes up when they announce it. Should be opposite though really if these guys are incompetent enough to lose $13 trillion because of a single pirate.

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        Are you going to tell me that investors are bumb enough not to see that nobody will ever even see a % of a % of a % of a % of a % of that number?

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          Why, none of that matters. Stock markets run on the hopes and dreams of investors. That’s how guys like Sam Altman can get away with evaluating their company at $1 trillion despite the bottom line showing them doing nothing but wasting funds.

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            While I do agree in general, Open ai is not a public company. Valuation logics of private companies are quite different than stock market.

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    The fact that Anna’s Archive isn’t responding to the court tells me they couldn’t give a shit about the lawsuit.

    Glorious.