Remembering to look for and ignore folks with that telltale indicator has made the fediverse so much more enjoyable.

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    You’re making things up to be mad about. Nobody pretends that those countries are flawless. You just can’t seem to handle the idea that none of those countries are 1/10 the threat to the world that the US is.

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      I’ve repeatedly seen posts on lemmy.ml defending Russia and NK, both brutal dictatorships that tread on human rights with feet, so no. I am most certainly not making stuff up

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        Defending them isn’t the same as saying they are flawless. What is the point of criticizing North Korea? Especially from a country like the US who does far more harm to the world than either NK or Russia.

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          Just because the US is a pile of crap doesn’t make it remotely acceptable to defend brutal dictatorships that will arrest you for simply being gay. Or throw you out of a window if you complain about their dear leader too much.

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            12 hours ago

            When I say “defend” I don’t mean a blanket defense. There are good criticisms to make, some of which you’ve highlighted. Unfortunately, such criticisms are too often used as excuses to write off those countries entirely, and to justify any and all attacks on them. For example, I often hear it said that I shouldn’t defend Palestinians, because they are anti gay. This is meant to distract us from the even greater evil occurring. You can do this with literally any country, which would mean that it isn’t “remotely acceptable to defend” any of them.

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              Except I’ve literally seen several of those blanket defenses on ml, as well as posts claiming that these countries aren’t even dictatorships, as well as posts justifying and defending Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and placing the blame for the continuing war on Ukraine for not surrendering. All of which I’ve seen posted, and upvoted uncritically on ml

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                11 hours ago

                Agree with them or not, there are justifications and defenses for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Again, you don’t have to like those reasons but you should understand what they are, and why people might honestly use them. And no, .ml isn’t immune to circlejerking anymore than .world is, but there is genuine discussion there if you care to engage in good faith with radically different points of view.