Remembering to look for and ignore folks with that telltale indicator has made the fediverse so much more enjoyable.

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    Lol, you think I’m the one with something to hide? Let’s do this in front of the class then - tell us the answer to the following question:

    If a guard at a concentration camp during the Holocaust said that he was tired of people complaining about it, and justified himself saying, “the world doesn’t revolve around genocide,” that people needed to “move the fuck on,” and then accused anyone who criticized him of being a pedophile, would these be valid arguments?

    Should be pretty easy for someone who’s not a Nazi to answer, right? I’m sure anyone reading it would have no trouble saying “no.” But for some reason, you can’t.

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      Hey, I’m employed and don’t have the time to dig into the lore. What did Lemminary say? Can you permalink it?

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        First they minimized genocide with:

        The world does not revolve around genocide, good god, can we see the world at large beyond a single topic?

        Then they doubled down, comparing being pro- or anti-genocide with “liking waffles or pancakes” and said to “move the fuck on.”

        You’re like the obnoxious person who chimes in with “Why do you hate waffles, huh?” when someone says they like pancakes. Move the fuck on.

        “I will defend waffles with my life!”

        Then, after I pointed out how abhorrent these things were, and they did nothing to deny that the exact same arguments could be used to justify the Holocaust, while also hurling a bunch of insults at me, I called them a Nazi. They responded by accusing me of being a pedophile.

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          Damn, and you still have to provide only a partial context? Only the bits that benefit you and make you seem like the victim, huh.

          How about you share the parts where you relentlessly accuse me of being a Nazi? The part where you misconstrue what I’m saying and purposely fail to grasp my point? The part where I actually fight back by falsely accusing you to prove my point, by using the same tactics you used to accuse me baselessly?

          You’re nothing but a mean girl, Katie.

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            Damn, and you still have to provide only a partial context?

            They literally said, “I’m employed,” so I gave a condensed version. If someone wants to read through all your drivel, they can read through the thread I linked. If they want your side of the story, they can ask you. This person asked me.

            How about you share the parts where you relentlessly accuse me of being a Nazi?

            I literally referenced that.

            The part where you misconstrue what I’m saying and purposely fail to grasp my point?

            I can’t link that part because it doesn’t exist and never happened.

            The part where I actually fight back by falsely accusing you to prove my point, by using the same tactics you used to accuse me baselessly?

            I wasn’t accusing you baselessly. I gave you my basis. You didn’t “prove your point” you just lobbed baseless nonsense to deflect from my valid criticisms.

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              I gave a condensed version

              … that benefited only you. Why don’t you include any of your own sins in there? Do you really think you’re a saint?

              I literally referenced that.

              Quote it like you did everything else. It doesn’t cost you a damn thing.

              I can’t link that part because it doesn’t exist and never happened.

              Oh, right, we’re still doing that bit, pretending we don’t understand basic analogies while trying to shove entire hypotheticals in people’s faces. Jfc, listen to yourself.

              You didn’t “prove your point”

              What point? Proving I’m not a Nazi? How about you prove that you’re not a pedo? The burden of proof falls on you to prove that I am. All you have are your stupid and loaded hypotheticals.

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                Oh, right, we’re still doing that bit, pretending we don’t understand basic analogies

                Are you talking about the analogy where you compared a moral stance about genocide to a mere preference between liking pancakes or waffles? I understood that analogy perfectly, as well as how utterly monstrous it was to make.

                The burden of proof falls on you to prove that I am.

                I did.

                All you have are your stupid and loaded hypotheticals.

                It’s not my fault you don’t understand hypotheticals.

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                  I understood that analogy perfectly, as well as how utterly monstrous it was to make.

                  I wish you had understood the one where I abstracted away the word “genocide” that you had fixated on so you could understand what my meta-comment was about. Or how you should’ve understood that you’re the type of person to interject with “but how can you hate waffles!” when someone says they like pancakes. Sounds to me like you didn’t understand anything at all.

                  I did.

                  Oh, and what’s this? Now you’re questioning whether I sound like a good person? Where’s the evil Nazi you were accusing me of being just a second ago, huh?

                  It’s not my fault you don’t understand hypotheticals.

                  It’s not my fault you make shitty and overloaded hypotheticals. Also, let me remind you that refusing to answer does not mean failing to understand. I simply side-stepped it, bucko.

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      I have nothing to hide. You’re putting words in people’s mouths and crying wolf. How about you share the entire context with the class instead? It’s easier if you don’t start spewing bullshit.

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        What context? That you said all those exact things about a different genocide? You really think that’ll make you look better?

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          You think it’s acceptable to supplant what I actually said in its original context with how you arranged it instead? See how both the post and the picture fit exactly with your behavior?

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            You think it’s acceptable to supplant what I actually said with how you arranged it instead?

            I literally just asked whether your exact words apply to other genocides. That’s it. You’re acting like that’s somehow deceptive.

            Still can’t answer the question btw 🤔

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              Brother, you’re setting up a false narrative and asking me to debunk it. How is that not deceptive? 😂

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                “False narrative” do you not understand how hypotheticals work? Are all hypotheticals “deceptive?” Christ Jesus.

                I’m not sure whether to pity you for having been failed by your educational system or whether to pity the educational system for having to deal with you.

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                  No, I’m literally saying yours is, actually. But talk about the failed education system some more, why don’t cha. Embody this post for us all, please.

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                    And you can’t give any reason why my hypothetical isn’t valid beyond “it’s dumb” or it’s “a false narrative,” with no further explanation.

                    It’s not complicated, it’s incredibly straightforward. We don’t even need the hypothetical, since you seem to struggle with the concept of them. Let’s frame it this way instead: is it valid to say the exact things you say about one genocide about other genocides? Yes or no.