They tend to be so frothing-at-the-mouth emphatically leftist that they’re indistinguishable from a CIA program to discredit the left. To be clear, I don’t think lemmy.ml is a CIA program, but I can’t imagine what they’d do differently if it were.
I think the problem is how authoritarian it is. It feels like living in Russia or china. If you say anything bad about china, russia, NK, or the moods you are attacked like you are the anticrist and banned.
From my experience I would risk to say many of those accounts are not even “real” people just a lot of ccp or kremlin police. Really zero freedom to express any ideas or even debate
Yeah, it’s absolutely a pro-dictatorship pro-russian/chinese farm to get their bot accounts comments, upvotes, etc, to push misinformation.
Literally got banned today for saying Putin should pull out of Ukraine and china has live organ farm harvesting in Xin Jiang province.
Edit: spelling. According to some big brain thinkers if you make a typo in the name of the province where people are tortured, it miraculously never happened…
Western state propaganda disinformation is readily available in Google, unfortunately. No material evidence for this, only “anonymous interviews”. We’ve seen how trustworthy those are when manufacturing atrocity propaganda against US geopolitical adversaries.
The original comment talked about Xinjiang province, not about Falun Gong practitioners, whom are interviewed in your article.
Falun Gong is a cult, and it’s a political organization linked to Trump and to anti-Chinese propaganda. From Wikipedia:
The performance arts group Shen Yun and the media organization The Epoch Times are the major outreach organizations of Falun Gong.[5] Both promote the spiritual and political teachings of Falun Gong.[109][110][111] They and a variety of other organizations such as New Tang Dynasty Television (NTD) operate as extensions of Falun Gong. These extensions promote the new religious movement and its teachings. In the case of The Epoch Times, they also promote conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccine misinformation[112] and far-right politics in both Europe and the United States.[58][26][27] Around the time of the 2016 United States presidential election, The Epoch Times began running articles supportive of Donald Trump and critical of his opponents.[113][27] Falun Gong extensions have also been active in promoting the European radical right.
Are these the people whose testimonies on China you’ll be believing?
Not at all. If you don’t want anyone to be opressed I would support but anyone knows about reeducation camps, ukranian invasion and I’m not even going to comment on nk… that is just absurd. I’m not defending us just because I don’t agree with other peoples oppresion
Btw I’m not american! Just a decent human that want other humans to be free.
The instance admins of lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, who are also the developers of Lemmy, have a wide variety of harmful views including genocide denial, transphobia, and support for authoritarian regimes. They are incredibly ban-happy and spend an unreasonable amount of time removing dissenting opinion from their communities instead of developing the platform. They’ve got a bunch of people in a complete echo chamber where saying anything critical about their favourite regimes earns you a ban despite there being no rules against it. Their users tend to also be the genocide denying, authoritarian bootlicking type.
Wanting 1% the material evidence of the genocide in Palestine applied to other, western geopolitically convenient “genocides”, isn’t genocide denial.
transphobia
Transphobia shouldn’t be tolerated, you’re free to move to hexbear where the slightest transphobia gets anyone banned
support for authoritarian regimes
Criticizing the mainstream western position on China is not support for authoritarianism. Support for authoritarianism is doing bothsideism while one side is the biggest oppressor on the face of the earth, which happens to be the side where you live.
Why on earth would I go to Hexbear when I’ve already made it pretty clear I have a strong distaste for .ml? Hexbear is full of the very same pro-authoritarian types and that instance has an awful reputation for brigading and harassing communities. I’ve seen this myself the numerous times they attempted to federate with other instances, my own included. No thanks.
Because it’s too left wing for the western redditers who are used to Scandinavia being the end of the political spectrum.
Also, the admins of .world want to consolidate the fediverse under their own instance, hence the constant firehose of rhetoric from .world trying to drive people away from rival instances.
If you define Left Wing as concentrating all political power in the hands of a narrow elite. The rest of the us have more egalitarian definitions of The Left.
Your view of reality isn’t materialist. You can’t explain why standards of life have been massively boosted in actually existing socialist countries and inequality rates have been the lowest recorded in history.
The only explanation possible in your view, would be that, for example, 5 different benevolent dictators have succeeded each other over 70 years in the USSR maintaining world class healthcare, education, access to housing, pensions and job security. But these things don’t happen in countries with dictators such as Saudi Arabia or fascist Spain.
How is it possible that there are only “good dictators” in communist countries?
I don’t get it, why is that instance of lemmy bad?
https://lemmy.world/post/29072279
They tend to be so frothing-at-the-mouth emphatically leftist that they’re indistinguishable from a CIA program to discredit the left. To be clear, I don’t think lemmy.ml is a CIA program, but I can’t imagine what they’d do differently if it were.
I think the problem is how authoritarian it is. It feels like living in Russia or china. If you say anything bad about china, russia, NK, or the moods you are attacked like you are the anticrist and banned.
From my experience I would risk to say many of those accounts are not even “real” people just a lot of ccp or kremlin police. Really zero freedom to express any ideas or even debate
Yeah, it’s absolutely a pro-dictatorship pro-russian/chinese farm to get their bot accounts comments, upvotes, etc, to push misinformation.
Literally got banned today for saying Putin should pull out of Ukraine and china has live organ farm harvesting in Xin Jiang province.
Edit: spelling. According to some big brain thinkers if you make a typo in the name of the province where people are tortured, it miraculously never happened…
Well, good ban. Disinformation should be banned.
You also seem very concerned for the people of a province whose name you can’t correctly spell. Surely not concern trolling
That is unfortunately not disinformation, you can easily google it.
Western state propaganda disinformation is readily available in Google, unfortunately. No material evidence for this, only “anonymous interviews”. We’ve seen how trustworthy those are when manufacturing atrocity propaganda against US geopolitical adversaries.
https://thediplomat.com/2024/08/first-known-survivor-of-chinas-forced-organ-harvesting-speaks-out/
Hey look the third result is a named survivor in an interview.
The original comment talked about Xinjiang province, not about Falun Gong practitioners, whom are interviewed in your article.
Falun Gong is a cult, and it’s a political organization linked to Trump and to anti-Chinese propaganda. From Wikipedia:
Are these the people whose testimonies on China you’ll be believing?
Man, good one, tankie. I’m sure Xi will be increasing your food rations for the month.
We’re also believing the videos from inside the compounds and the Uyghur Muslims from the province that escaped.
You must be really proud of yourself for covering up some of the most heinous crimes against humanity that can ever occur.
The reason it looks so very similar to the Alt-Right, is because it basically is.
To you, opposing genocide in Palestine and wanting to end US supremacy and western imperialism looks very similar to the Alt-Right.
Your problem is that you don’t care when it’s the west oppressing people
Not at all. If you don’t want anyone to be opressed I would support but anyone knows about reeducation camps, ukranian invasion and I’m not even going to comment on nk… that is just absurd. I’m not defending us just because I don’t agree with other peoples oppresion
Btw I’m not american! Just a decent human that want other humans to be free.
You support western colonialism which is orders of magnitude worse than anything you mentioned.
The instance admins of lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, who are also the developers of Lemmy, have a wide variety of harmful views including genocide denial, transphobia, and support for authoritarian regimes. They are incredibly ban-happy and spend an unreasonable amount of time removing dissenting opinion from their communities instead of developing the platform. They’ve got a bunch of people in a complete echo chamber where saying anything critical about their favourite regimes earns you a ban despite there being no rules against it. Their users tend to also be the genocide denying, authoritarian bootlicking type.
100% l. Well said.
Wanting 1% the material evidence of the genocide in Palestine applied to other, western geopolitically convenient “genocides”, isn’t genocide denial.
Transphobia shouldn’t be tolerated, you’re free to move to hexbear where the slightest transphobia gets anyone banned
Criticizing the mainstream western position on China is not support for authoritarianism. Support for authoritarianism is doing bothsideism while one side is the biggest oppressor on the face of the earth, which happens to be the side where you live.
Why on earth would I go to Hexbear when I’ve already made it pretty clear I have a strong distaste for .ml? Hexbear is full of the very same pro-authoritarian types and that instance has an awful reputation for brigading and harassing communities. I’ve seen this myself the numerous times they attempted to federate with other instances, my own included. No thanks.
Racism, political extremism, and kinda just assholes.
Please tell me how .ml is racist, and not .world allowing Zionists unbanned
liberals/social democrats tend to lose their shit when they realize that they’re right wing, so it’s easier to demonize people for pointing out it
Love the user name! If you browse through the comments, other folks have had the same question answered.
Because it’s too left wing for the western redditers who are used to Scandinavia being the end of the political spectrum.
Also, the admins of .world want to consolidate the fediverse under their own instance, hence the constant firehose of rhetoric from .world trying to drive people away from rival instances.
What does this post have to do with the admins of lemmy.world? The original poster of this thread is from piefed.ca.
If you define Left Wing as concentrating all political power in the hands of a narrow elite. The rest of the us have more egalitarian definitions of The Left.
Your view of reality isn’t materialist. You can’t explain why standards of life have been massively boosted in actually existing socialist countries and inequality rates have been the lowest recorded in history.
The only explanation possible in your view, would be that, for example, 5 different benevolent dictators have succeeded each other over 70 years in the USSR maintaining world class healthcare, education, access to housing, pensions and job security. But these things don’t happen in countries with dictators such as Saudi Arabia or fascist Spain.
How is it possible that there are only “good dictators” in communist countries?
Man, politics must be so easy when you just make up lazy strawmen that aren’t remotely accurate