On Lemmy, definitely.

Is it only half a package of fudge stripe cookies because part of the process is eating the other half?

The thing is, they don’t truly understand the consequences. Otherwise c/leopardsatemyface wouldn’t be a thing.

They believe that they are free from consequence because they keep being told that, and by the odds they’re unlikely to face major direct consequences of their choices. And when they do, often it gets blamed on “the other side” instead of the people they choose to represent them.

It’s not about them being too stupid to understand, or too evil to want better, it’s about an unwillingness to think about the consequences of their actions.