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    This post is just a circlejerk to make you (the community in general) feel better. It’s not centrist or far-right to reasonably think third parties have little chance in national elections. Start with your local elections and get progessives in or even run yourself if you care so much.

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      It’s not centrist or far-right to reasonably think third parties have little chance in national elections

      I believe they’re talking about the genocide.

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      It’s not centrist or far-right to reasonably think third parties have little chance in national elections.

      Sure, but I don’t fight against the Hitlers because I think I’m going to win. I fight against Hitlers because they are both fucking evil.

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      We believe in organizing as the primary means of achieving change, voting is just a very small part of what we do, but if these politicians want our votes shouldn’t they appeal to us? Our comrades in the US have a simple demand, no more genocide, no more wars, you don’t give us that much, you don’t get our vote. Or, if we’re so insignificant we can be ignored, then don’t removed about us not voting for you when you lose. Either way, it seems like being 99% hitler as opposed to 100% hitler isn’t good enough to win elections anymore, and that’s a good thing.

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        Absolutely. That’s why I include voting in primaries. I’d rather us have 0% hitler. But when the two choices (in practice) are 100% hitler and 99% hitler, I’d still prefer to have 1% less hitler. And it shouldn’t mark someone as 100% hitler to feel that way.

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          So you’d vote for genocide as long as the other guy was gonna do 2 genocides?

          And you don’t see the problem with this?

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            Voting to stop 1 genocide is a problem? Impact > Intent. If the intent of your vote is to punish some person or party and the impact of that choice is worse, that’s a problem.

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              Okay, next round it’s 2 genocides or 3 genocides. You don’t want to let an extra genocide happen, right? Better support the lesser evil!

              Next round is 3 genocides vs 4 genocides

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                This changes nothing. When you have the choice to prevent 1 genocide or not prevent it at all, what would you do?

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                  This changes everything. When a broken, antihuman ideology and the unstoppable march of time put you on a trajectory of becoming more identical to the nazis with every passing day, what do you do?

                  Do you face the ugly truth that a bunch of rich pedophiles lied to you as a child about how our world works and used your cooperation to pursue their own agenda, and move forward from there? Or do you retreat into denial, back into the cycle of the addict to delay contact with the cold metal of reality? We, communists, aren’t your enemy. We’re you from the future, and we’re running out of time to bring you to your senses. While you line up to vote for 99% Hitler, both parties shake hands to build a camp for you.

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                    Please elaborate on France. Compare their size and current political climate to the United States (the country I live it) and outline how to accomplish whatever it is you are alluding to within the confines of reality.

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                My country isn’t ethical. I don’t even need to think about that. Still not going to use my vote to let MORE genocide happen.

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                  Still not going to use my vote to let MORE genocide happen.

                  • Goes on to vote for more genocide, but is proud that it’s a Blue genocide
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                  Yeah that’s obviously not in question. It’s unethical to continue to support the country and not start burning it all down lol.

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                    The last decade has only proven that the “burn it down” crowd (who are super active online, but don’t show up IRL to vote against fascists) are never going to show up IRL for the revolution.

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            Can you read? I clearly said that I’d rather have 0% hitler. You, and everyone else, has provided no solution to bringing in the zero genocides guy. Until then, this all just validates my point of: this post is a circlejerk to make you feel better.

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              Can you read? Overthrow your fascist pedophilic rapist terrorist colonizer owners, lol.

              Oh wait the treat supply is still too good to fucking go outside.

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              I’ve seen plenty of solutions here. You just won’t accept them because points at meme

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                “Overthrow your government” and “simply have a better government” are not solutions. They’re wishes. Nothing resembles a concrete plan to make an actual change. My statement stands.

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                  You know most governments get overthrown? Like on a long enough timeline it’s basically inevitable. America is due for a hard reset. You know you still allow slavery as punishment for a crime?

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                    Okay, so what’s the actual plan? This is just more of the same. All anyone has done is reinforce my initial point.

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                  Lmao. They’re only wishes because there’s no way to do them without any effort. Voting is the only acceptable pathway to y’all because you don’t actually have to do anything.

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                    Yet you think people who can’t even be bothered to vote are going to show up for the revolution. How has that worked out in the last decade? Where are y’all?

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                  Yes they are, you just don’t like them because you’d have to actually do something about it.

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          “If we’re going to have Hitler, I’d rather the Hitler that preserves the long term stability and power of the Reich”

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          It still shows a complete lack of solidarity with the rest of marginalized people, including those being ethnically cleansed inside the US, and to those being bombed, droned, sanctioned, starved, etc abroad. Sanders is a liberal Zionist, AOC is pro-imperialism in Latin America, and even Mamdani conceded a lot of nonsense to the right, even agreeing with gusanos that Cuba and Venezuela are dictatorships, doing his part in normalizing the atrocities we see now there by the US government. Mamdani is the best of the bunch by far and he’s still bad to us.

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          Trolley-problem-ass poster. So fucking embarrassing.

          For everyone else, dialectical materialism.

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          It’s more like 100% Hitler and 99% disappointing people who aren’t realistic

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      Imagine getting this triggered over a comic calling some undefined person similar to Hitler. What a way to tell on yourself