I had tried using stremio and real-debrid, but since real-debrid started to filter their results and some addons just don’t seem reliable any more (ie: torrentio), I think it’s time to update or replace my setup.
I would use it for just T.V. and movies, nothing really obscure (maybe older, but popular, shows/movies).
I had tried:
- real-debrid (not happy with)
- self-hosted comet (not happy with)
- zilean (not happy with)
- torrentio (I’ve actually removed it, because it seemed to be broken more often than not, but when it worked it had great results)
- steaming catalogs (love it)
- aiolist (atm seems to be broken or I need to upgrade it)
Other than streaming catalogs, I’m struggling to find an add-on which aggregates what’s popular/recent now (was using trakt via aiolist).
What would you suggest?
I have a vague recollection that there was a paid service like torrentio (debrid-link?). Would something like that salvage my real-debrid?
Would I get better results with zilean/comet, if I replaced real-debrid with another debrid service (ie: world-debrid, alldebrid, torbox, etc)?
Ideally, I’d like to keep the costs low, but I’m also getting tired of getting 480 resolution because that’s the only thing that comet/zilean can find that exists on real-debrid. Self-hosting could be possible (but I’d like to avoid).
edit: a couple of words.
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I currently have Torbox and Debridio as a scraper while using Nuvio on all my devices and that setup works pretty well. Debridio is a yearly sub and pretty cheap. Torbox has a tier structure for their subs but essential is good enough for most people.
Warning however, all of the things I just mentioned are vibecoded so getting support is quite egregious. AI bros tend to get pretty insecure when you bring up the idea of Claude having made a mistake, even innocently.
And aside from getting support, the discord servers of these services are some of the worst discord has to offer. Everyone worth asking anything in the Torbox server, for instance, are incredibly immature. Not to mention the flagrant bigotry.
Just understand the kinds of people you’re gonna be talking to. A lot of them have some pretty serious god complexes, and I’m not bringing this up out of nowhere I’ve been a customer in this scene for years. But most importantly, abandon the idea of loyalty here. Sticking with one service will likely only hurt you, as enshittification consumes quickly in this scene. Good luck.
Ah, right - debridio was the paid torrentio.
I’m really curious if the results justify the additional cost (even if it’s $9/yr).
…as I said, I’ve had horrible results with zilean and comet. If $9 solves that problem, it would be worth it.
Regarding support, heh yeah, I gave up on that a long time ago (hence, why I posted this question on Lemmy ;)
I use torbox and the plugin StreamThru Torz, I love it. Consistently finding high quality cached streams for nearly everything I search for. iirc StreamThru Torz supports real-debrid, could be worth trying that first before jumping ship
Thanks for suggesting Stremthru Torz, I’ll take a peek at it.
Regarding torbox, I am a bit confused by how it’s a replacement for debrid.
From their website, it looks like it’s effectively a seedbox. You give it torrents and it fetches them… meaning you need to wait for them to download and it consumes whatever disk space your plan allows. Or does torbox have some cache where it pulls torrents from and if there isn’t a cache-hit, it’ll fetch it.
Would torbox’s Essential ($3/mo) be enough for stremthru troz?
Torbox can be use just like RD, it does advert as a seedbox but this functionality is junk, nowhere close to be as good as a (real) seedbox provider. Also, debriding from hosters isn’t very reliable. I mean, it does work usually but not as stable as other debrid services but essential plan is cheap and allow multi IP so you can share account.
Oh, wow. Thanks for bringing up the hosters lack of reliability.
Every once in awhile, I’ll use RD to fetch content on mega or 1fichier. It’s not a “must have” feature, but it is kinda handy.
Does torbox have support for mega and 1fichier? I couldn’t find a comprehensive list of their supported holsters.
I’d forgotten about RD limiting one account to a single IP. Since torbox would support mutli-ip, it would be nice to not worry about if I’d left the streaming on at home while on the road via mobile (or needing to VPN, etc).
It does support hosters you mentioned. I should have mentioned overall reliability is Ok but really not the best https://status.torbox.app/ I still have active suscription but did move away few months ago as i got fedup… To be honest, they do have some good things but feels like they still need a lot of work and they really had some nonsens approach like until early this year (if i’m not mistaken), they were running qbitorrent gui instance…
I’m curious, if you got fedup with torbox, what did you move too?
Alldebrid. Stability apart, my other concern with TB was cached files in my own language (that’s why i did not mentioned it) but TB is good for english content, probably best than alldebrid for that matter.
Aiostreams is another add-on substitute. I’ve liked it so far because it’s super customizable and keeps my stremio interface clean based on the filters I’ve put (though filters are a double edged sword of you restrict too much). You can then have torrentio and other file sharers configured directly to it.
For TorBox, the essential plan has been great so far. Real debrid has taken a pretty crappy turn (logging user data, blocking connections, etc.) while torbox is more lenient and flexible to say the least. It has both caches and fetches from whatever add-ons you put in the Aiostreams (or alternative) add-on from my understanding.
Depending on your internet, it would download to their server and cast on your device pretty instantly - their connections are fast.
Also note that torrentio has been failing a lot and I think there are a couple of alternatives to it. I think torrentdz or something?
Thanks for explaining TorBox. It makes much more sense now. I’m going to give them a shot.
Aiostreams is something I’ve used as well… and you’re totally right about the “double edged sword”.
I couldn’t find “torrentdz”, but I did find torrentsdb, which matches your description.
In fact, I’ll install torrentsdb and see if it’s better/worse than the current comet+zilean combo (with real-debrid).
Try Premiumize. It’s probably the best debrid service available today. They usually have a Black Friday sale, so you might want to pay for a month to try it out, then get a year or two for cheap during Black Friday.
If you have an Android streaming box, try it with either Weyd or Syncler. Syncler is a continuation of the old TVZion app, if you ever used that.
In addition to file hosts and torrents like Real Debrid, Premiumize also supports Usenet. You’d still need an indexer like NZBGeek, but you can use your Premiumize account to download .nzb files instead of having to get a separate Usenet subscription. You can use the Premiumize Usenet server in Sabnzbd too, if you ever want to automate downloads using the -arr suite instead of just streaming.
I appreciate the advice.
Long ago, I explored self-hosting arr-stack and Usenet. For me, it was a lot of work with many moving parts. It was great for obscure content, but being able to just stream content via stremio was a fantastic improvement.
If I’m looking at streaming, premiumize I feel could be overkill (comparing the price to other debris providers).
I use a combo of premiumize as a debrid service and then Comet, Media fusion and torrentio. The only issues I ever have is with really obscure documentaries and that is usually an issue based on availability rather than the service.
I still default to picking torrentio served links over the other two as they are most reliable.
Here is a list of some available add ons that you could try out but my guess is your problem is probably real debrid. I sacked them off as soon as they started fucking about a couple of years ago or whatever it was and premiumize has worked pretty much flawlessly since.
