Genocide isn’t “the one thing”, it is the last straw on the back of a very tired camel. There is no longer a single political issue where the democrats have yet to show themselves to be actively detrimental.
I’m sorry but I don’t get it. The genocide hasnt stopped, its probably gotten worse, Trump ran to attack Iran after every other president in my entire life had turned down Israel. How is anything better right now vs when dems hold any sort of power and just pretend they can’t do shit? Like I also get how fucking stupid their spineless are, but on this specific issue, both sides are virtually the same? So why make this the issue that decides everything else? Trump has directly made my country worse by very directly interfering with our elections and pardoning our drug lord president. He’s emboldened the far right around the entire world, he’s turned corporate America into the owners of the world, tripled the price of gas in less than a year, and is about to throw us into the deep end of a worldwide depression. The cracks were there but this motherfucker is pushing with all he has to break things, and the genocide is still happening in the background. I truly, sincerely don’t get it.
The majority of palestinians died under Biden. Things did not get worse, you just did not have to pretend to care. In actuality the Palestinian cause is the first one to create any actual progress in the fascist duopoly of the United States. AIPAC is radioactive, psychos like you have to, at the very least, pay lip-service towards the ongoing genocide instead of denying the evidence seen by your own eyes.
My eyes have been paying close attention since October 7th. Do not make the mistake of assuming my identity just because I am arguing for voting. I am American, because I live in the continent of America, but I am not a US citizen. I am Honduran, living in Honduras, watching this madness unfold and unable to do shit about it. I cannot vote in the empire’s games, I simply take it in the ass when you make the wrong choice. You’ve all been making the wrong choice for at least the past decade (definitely longer), and we’re all paying for it.
You people somehow demand everything is solved immediately if people dare to suggest an alternative to voting for genocidal fascists, yet any critique of the genocidal fascists get dismissed with vague platitudes about slowing things down for some promised day when things will change. How do you think change comes, if not by the focused efforts of people working towards it?! This asinine insistance on entrenching a mass-murdering status quo that you types keep arguing for is deranged. It makes no sense
What makes no sense is arguing anything else for election day. You just go out and vote for not trump, for anything that makes trump and his base lose power. Its not as hard or as immoral as you make it out to be. What makes no sense is that you all argue this, then the fascists become MORE empowered, ad infinitum. You’re essentially arguing for accelerationism, hoping that this mess eventually breaks people into revolution, or in similar words to yours, dismissing my arguments with vague platitudes about speeding things up for the worse, for some promised day when things will change. We’re both probably arguing out of the devices built to prevent that from happening. Things are just going to get worse, but at least you won’t have voted for “the genocidal party”, right?
You could do all you say, organizing, pushing, resisting, fighting. You insist on doing nothing instead, and in the exact planned moment when the bullies pull out the rulebook and decide your actions, or rather lack thereof, give them more power rather than less. Then your actions, your voice, your presence shrinks by the power of the law of the land. But at least you didn’t vote for the genocidal party.
Seriously, which fucking liberal podcast was it that has every single fucking shitlib suddenly parroting “accelerationism!” At every opportunity while also using it wrong
My eyes have been paying close attention since October 7th.
Ok, well that confirms you are deliberately downplaying the Democrats role in genocide rather than simply being ignorant of it
The accelerationism mention is because I simply cannot understand what you guys win from having trump or the GOP win.
Ok, that wasn’t my question. My question is who thought you and all the other shitlibs who have suddenly started squawking it to reflexively bleat it at every junction while clearly not understanding what it means.
Yes you’re right, that is the one and only issue in the whole world which the US affects and I’m definitely downplaying it for the liberal agenda
I don’t care why you downplayed it, there’s no possible excuse
I’m really sorry but it is massively pathetic that you’re a non-Amerikan railing so hard for the democrats. On foreign policy republicans and democrats are so entirely the same that even the most diehard Amerikan libs don’t try to pretend there’s a difference and instead rail on treats at home.
There is, I am not from the US, I can’t vote, I can’t do shit, I can just watch you guys burn the rest of the world over an issue you didn’t care about before 2023.
None of these are remotely an excuse for genocide denial. Can you actually try and have a coherent line of reasoning in your posts from now on.
So you’re NOT betting on the capitalist ultra elite to bring about radical change with their capital and tech? Then why the fuck did y’all get us on this train in 2024, when you were arguing this exact topic about Kamala?
Once again, that wasn’t my question. My question is who taught you and all the other shitlibs who have suddenly started squawking it to reflexively bleat it at every junction while clearly not understanding what it means.
I can see how you have a hard time understanding things if you always do what you’ve done here and ignore it when people explain the thing you dont get.
Why make this the issue that determines everything else
So you quote the part about this not being the one thing, yet if you kept reading instead of wasting time writing a whole bunch of nothing, then you might have gotten your answer. It was the last straw.
Trump
The only difference between Trump and the democrats is a bad tanjob. Democrats are just as gleeful supporters of insurgents far right militias around the world, there is nothing Trump is doing that they aren’t doing as well. You claim to be a honduran, you should be well aware of this in that case.
You talk about “emboldening far right movements across the world” what the fuck do you think the democrats are doing when they’re supplying bombs to Israel? Biden expanded the ICE camps everyone were freaking out about under Trumps first term, yet none of you motherfuckers bat an eye. None of the things you mention here matter to you, you only care because the guy in charge is fat and rude about it.
Since October 7
Which, as we all know is when history began.
What makes no sense is arguing anything else for election day. You just go out and vote for not trump, for anything that makes trump and his base lose power.
Nobody here is arguing that people should vote for Trump, what are you smoking? People just also think you shouldnt vote for the other group of fascist genociders.
You’re essentially arguing for accelerationism
You have to tell me what lib-ass podcast that had an episode about accelerationism recently, because all of you half-wits throw the term around now and none of you are using it correctly. Was it that behind the Bastards slop?
Buddy an accelerationist would vote for a democrat, YOU are arguing for accelerationism. You do not understand the term.
Things are just going to get worse, but at least you won’t have voted for “the genocidal party”, right?
I thought you understood how terrible the democrats are, yet now they’re “the genocide party”? And they’re somehow going to improve things? Weird how your position changes to whatever is most beneficial to your argument in the moment, almost like you dont have any ideological rigidity or real understanding of the world.
Are the democrats a bad party that one has to vote for because the republicans are worse, or are they a party that will improve things?
It is much better to try to do anything to affect positive change than to vote for a group of genocidal fascists that are making things worse - which both the democrats and the republicans are. You people are so fucking facetious, you always swing from “oh they’re also bad, I acknowledge that” to “Wow just because they’re not perfect???”
I want things to improve. Therefore I cannot vote for democrats, since they are only making things worse. I especially cannot vote for them unconditionally, since that gives them absolutely no reason to ever improve. If it is true that the people like me are the reason the democrats lost, then why are you mad at us - a group that made very clear, simple and easy to follow demands of those wanting our vote - instead of being mad at the democrats, a party that could not win an election against a man as uniquely terrible as you think he is? Why is your ire not directed at the absolutely incompetent politicians within that party that somehow managed to ignore the one group they should have listened to if they wanted to win?
It is because in your mind the party cannot fail, it can only be failed. You are like a circus elephant, broken to the wheel, despite the fact that you could easily move beyond it now in your adulthood.
You insist on doing nothing instead
Why is it that when you people hear “dont vote for democrats” then that becomes “give up and do nothing at all, all is lost”? What is it with this defeatist attitude of yours where the only thing there is to do is to vote for democrats? Is it because you are disingenuous assholes who know you can’t argue against the actual position with which you find yourself in disagreeance, or is it because you are such a frothing at the mouth blue team fascist that if someone does not give their unconditional support to your xenophobic bigoted geriatric police-state fascists, then that means they are functionally non-existent?
I’m sorry but I don’t get it. The genocide hasnt stopped, its probably gotten worse, Trump ran to attack Iran after every other president in my entire life had turned down Israel. How is anything better right now vs when dems hold any sort of power and just pretend they can’t do shit? Like I also get how fucking stupid their spineless are, but on this specific issue, both sides are virtually the same? So why make this the issue that decides everything else? Trump has directly made my country worse by very directly interfering with our elections and pardoning our drug lord president. He’s emboldened the far right around the entire world, he’s turned corporate America into the owners of the world, tripled the price of gas in less than a year, and is about to throw us into the deep end of a worldwide depression. The cracks were there but this motherfucker is pushing with all he has to break things, and the genocide is still happening in the background. I truly, sincerely don’t get it.
My eyes have been paying close attention since October 7th. Do not make the mistake of assuming my identity just because I am arguing for voting. I am American, because I live in the continent of America, but I am not a US citizen. I am Honduran, living in Honduras, watching this madness unfold and unable to do shit about it. I cannot vote in the empire’s games, I simply take it in the ass when you make the wrong choice. You’ve all been making the wrong choice for at least the past decade (definitely longer), and we’re all paying for it.
What makes no sense is arguing anything else for election day. You just go out and vote for not trump, for anything that makes trump and his base lose power. Its not as hard or as immoral as you make it out to be. What makes no sense is that you all argue this, then the fascists become MORE empowered, ad infinitum. You’re essentially arguing for accelerationism, hoping that this mess eventually breaks people into revolution, or in similar words to yours, dismissing my arguments with vague platitudes about speeding things up for the worse, for some promised day when things will change. We’re both probably arguing out of the devices built to prevent that from happening. Things are just going to get worse, but at least you won’t have voted for “the genocidal party”, right?
You could do all you say, organizing, pushing, resisting, fighting. You insist on doing nothing instead, and in the exact planned moment when the bullies pull out the rulebook and decide your actions, or rather lack thereof, give them more power rather than less. Then your actions, your voice, your presence shrinks by the power of the law of the land. But at least you didn’t vote for the genocidal party.
Seriously, which fucking liberal podcast was it that has every single fucking shitlib suddenly parroting “accelerationism!” At every opportunity while also using it wrong
Ok, well that confirms you are deliberately downplaying the Democrats role in genocide rather than simply being ignorant of it
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Ok, that wasn’t my question. My question is who thought you and all the other shitlibs who have suddenly started squawking it to reflexively bleat it at every junction while clearly not understanding what it means.
I don’t care why you downplayed it, there’s no possible excuse
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I’m really sorry but it is massively pathetic that you’re a non-Amerikan railing so hard for the democrats. On foreign policy republicans and democrats are so entirely the same that even the most diehard Amerikan libs don’t try to pretend there’s a difference and instead rail on treats at home.
Why cant you answer simple questions? Will your CIA handlers not allow you to?
None of these are remotely an excuse for genocide denial. Can you actually try and have a coherent line of reasoning in your posts from now on.
Once again, that wasn’t my question. My question is who taught you and all the other shitlibs who have suddenly started squawking it to reflexively bleat it at every junction while clearly not understanding what it means.
I can see how you have a hard time understanding things if you always do what you’ve done here and ignore it when people explain the thing you dont get.
So you quote the part about this not being the one thing, yet if you kept reading instead of wasting time writing a whole bunch of nothing, then you might have gotten your answer. It was the last straw.
The only difference between Trump and the democrats is a bad tanjob. Democrats are just as gleeful supporters of insurgents far right militias around the world, there is nothing Trump is doing that they aren’t doing as well. You claim to be a honduran, you should be well aware of this in that case.
You talk about “emboldening far right movements across the world” what the fuck do you think the democrats are doing when they’re supplying bombs to Israel? Biden expanded the ICE camps everyone were freaking out about under Trumps first term, yet none of you motherfuckers bat an eye. None of the things you mention here matter to you, you only care because the guy in charge is fat and rude about it.
Which, as we all know is when history began.
Nobody here is arguing that people should vote for Trump, what are you smoking? People just also think you shouldnt vote for the other group of fascist genociders.
You have to tell me what lib-ass podcast that had an episode about accelerationism recently, because all of you half-wits throw the term around now and none of you are using it correctly. Was it that behind the Bastards slop?
Buddy an accelerationist would vote for a democrat, YOU are arguing for accelerationism. You do not understand the term.
I thought you understood how terrible the democrats are, yet now they’re “the genocide party”? And they’re somehow going to improve things? Weird how your position changes to whatever is most beneficial to your argument in the moment, almost like you dont have any ideological rigidity or real understanding of the world.
Are the democrats a bad party that one has to vote for because the republicans are worse, or are they a party that will improve things?
It is much better to try to do anything to affect positive change than to vote for a group of genocidal fascists that are making things worse - which both the democrats and the republicans are. You people are so fucking facetious, you always swing from “oh they’re also bad, I acknowledge that” to “Wow just because they’re not perfect???”
I want things to improve. Therefore I cannot vote for democrats, since they are only making things worse. I especially cannot vote for them unconditionally, since that gives them absolutely no reason to ever improve. If it is true that the people like me are the reason the democrats lost, then why are you mad at us - a group that made very clear, simple and easy to follow demands of those wanting our vote - instead of being mad at the democrats, a party that could not win an election against a man as uniquely terrible as you think he is? Why is your ire not directed at the absolutely incompetent politicians within that party that somehow managed to ignore the one group they should have listened to if they wanted to win?
It is because in your mind the party cannot fail, it can only be failed. You are like a circus elephant, broken to the wheel, despite the fact that you could easily move beyond it now in your adulthood.
Why is it that when you people hear “dont vote for democrats” then that becomes “give up and do nothing at all, all is lost”? What is it with this defeatist attitude of yours where the only thing there is to do is to vote for democrats? Is it because you are disingenuous assholes who know you can’t argue against the actual position with which you find yourself in disagreeance, or is it because you are such a frothing at the mouth blue team fascist that if someone does not give their unconditional support to your xenophobic bigoted geriatric police-state fascists, then that means they are functionally non-existent?