• FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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    Capitalism continues to kill vastly more people than the inflated claims about communism. Every year 10 million people die from starvation and preventable disease simply because it isn’t profitable to save them. That means that every 10 years capitalism kills as many as claimed in the Black Book of Communism, the source with the highest number of fatalities attributed to communism.

    US sanctions alone have killed 38 million people in the last 50 years.

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      I should add that the Black Book includes ridiculous things like Nazi soldier deaths in WW2, and the hypothetical children that possibly could have been born if things like the 1933 famine or WW2 didn’t happen. I shouldn’t have even called it a source, but anti-communists love treating it like gospel.

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      Yeah it’s literally killing people right now.

      Can’t pay for shelter, food, water or medicine? Go into debt, jail or the morgue, we don’t give a fuck.

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        i did some calculations a few years back with some friends on a whim during a sidetracked DnD campaign. we came to the conclusion that capitalism is directly and indirectly responsible for over 20+ million recorded deaths annually all over the world, as a conservative estimate

        main contributers were poverty, disease, war, lack of quality healthcare, and state violence.

        we also found that the existence of 1 billionaire has an annual death count, purely by subtracting that money from the economic cycle and direct aid. i cant remember now, but it was in the thousands of deaths per billion denied to those in need by hoarding wealth.

        billionaires are violent, purely through their existence. and we shouldnt tolerate any form of violence against us.

        we should sincerely be dragging these fuckers into the street and ripping them to pieces.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      More like laughs in being a shameful ignoramus helping spread literal fascist propaganda.

      During the 1932 Holodomor Famine, the USSR sent aid to affected regions in an attempt to alleviate the famine. According to Mark Tauger in his article, The 1932 Harvest and the Famine of 1933:

      While the leadership did not stop exports, they did try to alleviate the famine. A 25 February 1933 Central Committee decree allotted seed loans of 320,000 tons to Ukraine and 240,000 tons to the northern Caucasus. Seed loans were also made to the Lower Volga and may have been made to other regions as well. Kul’chyts’kyy cites Ukrainian party archives showing that total aid to Ukraine by April 1933 actually exceeded 560,000 tons, including more than 80,000 tons of food

      Some bring up massive grain exports during the famine to show that the Soviet Union exported food while Ukraine starved. This is fallacious for a number of reasons, but most importantly of all the amount of aid that was sent to Ukraine alone actually exceeded the amount that was exported at the time.

      Aid to Ukraine alone was 60 percent greater than the amount exported during the same period. Total aid to famine regions was more than double exports for the first half of 1933.

      According to Tauger, the reason why more aid was not provided was because of the low harvest

      It appears to have been another consequence of the low 1932 harvest that more aid was not provided: After the low 1931, 1934, and 1936 harvests procured grain was transferred back to peasants at the expense of exports.

      Tauger is not a communist, and ultimately this specific article takes the view that the low harvest was caused by collectivization (he factors in the natural causes of the famine in later articles, based on how he completely neglects to mention weather in this article at all its clear that his position shifted over the years). However, its interesting to see that the Soviets really did try to alleviate the famine as best as they could.

      https://www.jstor.org/stable/2500600

      kulaks slaughtered livestock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak#Dekulakization

      https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/169438

      https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/589297.Fraud_Famine_and_Fascism

      #historyMatters

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        The term “Holodomor” was coined by a literal Nazi in an attempt to both downplay Nazi crimes and promote anti-communist propaganda.

        Yes there was a terrible famine, no there isn’t any evidence that it was a genocide.

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      Libs are always so grateful to cling to fascist double genocide theory as a comforting mythology.