The dude was using a makeshift mortar to fire at densely populated urban areas even though using mortars where forbidden because the amount of civilians that got murdered was to high even for the us army standards. At the absolute provable minimum he risked children getting killed or injured even after ordered not to do so
He said he was firing at enemy mortar positions. You know, people shooting at them. They shouldn’t be there obviously but it’s a little different don’t you think?
He said he was firing at enemy mortar positions. You know, people shooting at them
Him having such enemies is a direct and very expected consequence of him signing up to torture, kill, and otherwise subjugate the people of Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times.
The only way you can think he had any right to retaliate in general is if you think that repeatedly signing up to torture, kill, and otherwise subjugate the people of Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times is perfectly okay.
There’s a difference between accidentally running over someone and intentionally doing it. The effect is the same, the intent is not. I’m not saying he was good or righteous or morally correct or anything.
Ok so you get the order from higher ups that shelling this area is forbidden because it is too population dense. You then jerry-rig a kind-of mortar using a grenade launcher in order to explicitly defy this command without getting detected. You note that “it [is]n’t the most accurate system and [have] no idea if you ever killed an enemy mortar crew with it”, but sadly your training was insufficient to know that you would be putting childrens lives and limbs at undue risk?? And your reaction is basically 🤷???
Here’s a thought experiment: an american community starts to fight back against ICE with armed resistance. One of the ICE agents does the same thing, but years later decides to run as a dem candidate. What (if anything) does he have to do in order for you vote for him?
If afterwards he says he shouldn’t have been there and done that, is anti Israel, and his opponents are pro Israel and in the case of Susan Collins literally voted to send his ass and all the other thousands of troops there… Yeah probably. (edit: I guess for your hypothetical they would be a senator and primary challenger that’s pro ICE and the sitting senator is a rubber stamp for ICE funding increases and/or voted to create ICE)
My reaction is he wasn’t killing civilians for his own kicks and implies he’s exactly what I said, a stupid crayon eater.
If afterwards he says he shouldn’t have been there and done that
He says it was an ‘excellent experience’. He considered the ‘experience’ to be good enough to sign up several more times, including as a mercenary, and to then brag about it.
is anti Israel
Well, he isn’t. He’s even friends with zionists.
and his opponents are pro Israel and in the case of Susan Collins literally voted to send his ass and all the other thousands of troops there
She didn’t force him to sign up even once, let alone several times.
He also isn’t any better in terms of policies - he wants to strengthen the military.
My reaction is he wasn’t killing civilians for his own kicks
He has literally said that he had fun doing it and bragged about it.
If you went on top of the empire State building and threw multiple hand grenades on the street below, where white people could be walking, would you call that malicious? Or a terror attack? Can you see how him shelling a neighborhood where brown people live is similar? I’m not trying to be mean, but anyone who struggles to see how bad this is, might just have their ability to emphasize impaired by racism. It might not be their fault, people often absorb racists believes unconsciously or have a hard time extending the same amount of empathy, they would to white people to racialized people, if they rarely interact with them. People reading this, who suspect this might apply to them even in a limited way, should really take this to heart and try to reflect on their racist biases and ability to empathize.
He said he was firing at enemy mortar positions. You know, people shooting at them. They shouldn’t be there obviously but it’s a little different don’t you think?
I see he was deployed at those times (not that he participated necessarily), don’t see anything about Abu Graib, and yes obviously he joined Blackwater. That doesn’t mean those things aren’t true obviously.
The woman did provide proof.
I just want to know what’s real and not the worst possible made up scenario.
Which means that he was a very direct participant in the process that involved things like killing (as well as torturing, including by SA) children in Iraq. He signed up to do that multiple times, because of how much he loved the ‘experience’ (according to him).
Platner went to the United States Marine Corps School of Infantry and deployed to Iraq in 2005. “It was a relatively calm deployment for the first few months, mostly because the Battle of Fallujah just happened, and much of the insurgent activity in the area had been crushed in that fight,” he told me. Later, while he was on patrol at Abu Ghraib, there was an attack on the prison.
I am not aware of any specific war crimes he participated in. I mistakenly gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed he had grown from the kind of uncritical person who joins the military, hence leaving it and running on anti-imperialist policy.
It’s not unreasonable to see a guy who comes away from the military saying “Hey this is bad and we shouldn’t do it” and be easily led to believe the guy saw what he was a part of and understood it needs to be stopped. Every successful revolution includes former soldiers of the regime who’ve realized they were on the wrong side.
It’s not unreasonable to see a guy who comes away from the military saying “Hey this is bad and we shouldn’t do it”
He didn’t do that. He bragged about his atrocities as an ‘excellent experience’.
Why are you still trying to pretend that he showed any sort of remorse?
Like holy shit how can people possibly even just glance at that history and think “wow, this is a sane, reasonable, and well-adjusted person”
This guy could go on stage and scream “I LOVE KILLING PEOPLE SO MUCH!!!” and people would still defend him, even though… wait… isn’t that literally what one of his accusers said he would talk about all the time is enjoying war & killing people?
He was in the military for eight (8) years! He went on three (3) tours to Iraq that included Ramadi, Fallujah and Abu Ghraib! When asked why he said “he wanted to play soldier” and “he wanted go on an adventure and kill some people”! He went on another tour in Afghanistan and then once more as a blackwater (constellis) merc! I have never seen him repentant or apologetic of what he did and support.
that is not even the case. in most marxist leninist states former imperial/royalist army officials were either kept because of greater forces, purged, or entirely dismantled through the ongoing period of revolution/guerrilla warfare. im not going to say it never happened but it’s not like you shouldn’t treat former (to say the least) participants in war crimes against the proletariat with nothing but the ultimate suspicion.
Platner is an unashamed imperialist and by personal accounts loved being a mercenary in Iraq. He doesn’t seem regretful at all and made no real attempt at asking for forgiveness.
He bragged on his reddit about firing mortar rounds into civilian areas, said he joined the Marines in order to kill, later became a Blackwater Merc
https://themainemonitor.org/platner-reddit-comments/ <- includes a searchable database of his comments, plenty of other bad stuff in there too if the SA and Murder didn’t already give you a read on who he is: racism, homophobia, ableism etc
The rape was in 2023. It’s 2026 now. Like who cares, the past is the past. He has grown past it right? He also said people need to respect women during his campaign and rape is bad. Why won’t you accept his personal growth?!
Iraq. The entirety of Iraq was a war crime. Collin Powell even came out and said there were never weapons of mass destruction and they lied to the UN. He gave that interview with the Guardian early in 2004. Fallujah was in November later that year.
The US lied about WMDs and illegally invaded a country that had neither attacked them or an ally, nor was it at war with any other country. That’s a war crime and why Germany had the Treaty of Versailles placed on it for invading neutral Belgium.
Yup. I was just pointing out how there were no doubts in 2004 the Iraq War was illegal. Platner joined up after then-secretary Powell confessed the whole thing was a sham. It’s not like he joined up on September 12th. 2001, naively believing the US was a force for good. He joined when everyone knew what was being done to the Middle East was a crime.
Alright, I’ll bite. Is there any proof he killed brown children?
The dude was using a makeshift mortar to fire at densely populated urban areas even though using mortars where forbidden because the amount of civilians that got murdered was to high even for the us army standards. At the absolute provable minimum he risked children getting killed or injured even after ordered not to do so
https://imgur.com/a/wY3l0Ki
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/e613vv/iraq_us_marines_in_ramadi_use_an_mk19_grenade/
Reading it, it seems more careless and stupid rather than malicious. But, I still didn’t know this before and I appreciate it.
How many levels of racist do you have to be to think shelling civilian areas with explosives is “stupid rather than malicious”?
If someone started firing grenade launchers into Maine would that be “stupid rather than malicious”?
He said he was firing at enemy mortar positions. You know, people shooting at them. They shouldn’t be there obviously but it’s a little different don’t you think?
Him having such enemies is a direct and very expected consequence of him signing up to torture, kill, and otherwise subjugate the people of Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times.
The only way you can think he had any right to retaliate in general is if you think that repeatedly signing up to torture, kill, and otherwise subjugate the people of Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times is perfectly okay.
I didn’t say any of those things and I don’t think that.
You were trying to excuse a USSian invader going around orders in order to fire explosives at civilians in the comment I replied to:
There’s a difference between accidentally running over someone and intentionally doing it. The effect is the same, the intent is not. I’m not saying he was good or righteous or morally correct or anything.
Do you know how US military speak works?
So he tells this elaborate story only to leave out the one detail that he actually was doing it for fun and to kill civilians?
He posted on Reddit about how epic and fun it was. And how it was entirely inaccurate and he doesn’t know what it hit.
Ok so you get the order from higher ups that shelling this area is forbidden because it is too population dense. You then jerry-rig a kind-of mortar using a grenade launcher in order to explicitly defy this command without getting detected. You note that “it [is]n’t the most accurate system and [have] no idea if you ever killed an enemy mortar crew with it”, but sadly your training was insufficient to know that you would be putting childrens lives and limbs at undue risk?? And your reaction is basically 🤷???
Here’s a thought experiment: an american community starts to fight back against ICE with armed resistance. One of the ICE agents does the same thing, but years later decides to run as a dem candidate. What (if anything) does he have to do in order for you vote for him?
If afterwards he says he shouldn’t have been there and done that, is anti Israel, and his opponents are pro Israel and in the case of Susan Collins literally voted to send his ass and all the other thousands of troops there… Yeah probably. (edit: I guess for your hypothetical they would be a senator and primary challenger that’s pro ICE and the sitting senator is a rubber stamp for ICE funding increases and/or voted to create ICE)
My reaction is he wasn’t killing civilians for his own kicks and implies he’s exactly what I said, a stupid crayon eater.
He says it was an ‘excellent experience’. He considered the ‘experience’ to be good enough to sign up several more times, including as a mercenary, and to then brag about it.
Well, he isn’t. He’s even friends with zionists.
She didn’t force him to sign up even once, let alone several times.
He also isn’t any better in terms of policies - he wants to strengthen the military.
He has literally said that he had fun doing it and bragged about it.
Specifically defying lawful orders in order to commit bonus war crimes isn’t careless
If you went on top of the empire State building and threw multiple hand grenades on the street below, where white people could be walking, would you call that malicious? Or a terror attack? Can you see how him shelling a neighborhood where brown people live is similar? I’m not trying to be mean, but anyone who struggles to see how bad this is, might just have their ability to emphasize impaired by racism. It might not be their fault, people often absorb racists believes unconsciously or have a hard time extending the same amount of empathy, they would to white people to racialized people, if they rarely interact with them. People reading this, who suspect this might apply to them even in a limited way, should really take this to heart and try to reflect on their racist biases and ability to empathize.
He said he was firing at enemy mortar positions. You know, people shooting at them. They shouldn’t be there obviously but it’s a little different don’t you think?
No, it isn’t.
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He participated in the Fallujah and Ramadi massacares and was a concentration camp guard at Abu Graib and joined Blackwater.
Why don’t you ask for proof of him raping that white woman?
I see he was deployed at those times (not that he participated necessarily), don’t see anything about Abu Graib, and yes obviously he joined Blackwater. That doesn’t mean those things aren’t true obviously.
The woman did provide proof.
I just want to know what’s real and not the worst possible made up scenario.
Which means that he was a very direct participant in the process that involved things like killing (as well as torturing, including by SA) children in Iraq. He signed up to do that multiple times, because of how much he loved the ‘experience’ (according to him).
Did you try like, opening Google?
Yes? I wasn’t super thorough so I could be wrong.
https://archive.is/sROJZ
The woman provided recipts.
The dead can’t provide receipts, how neat!
And the military also does what it can to cover up for war crimes; look up the immediate aftermath of basically any war crime
In the aftermath of the Haditha massacre for example, the military claimed a blast killed 15 civilians and military thugs killed eight insurgents
Did she provide video evidence?
Are you sure the video wasn’t AI?
Come on just keep doubling down like you’ve been doing for his war crimes against brown children.
I am not aware of any specific war crimes he participated in. I mistakenly gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed he had grown from the kind of uncritical person who joins the military, hence leaving it and running on anti-imperialist policy.
But the rape was in 2023.
you are literally the meme, gringos are so fucked in the brain its scary. you are scary.
It’s not unreasonable to see a guy who comes away from the military saying “Hey this is bad and we shouldn’t do it” and be easily led to believe the guy saw what he was a part of and understood it needs to be stopped. Every successful revolution includes former soldiers of the regime who’ve realized they were on the wrong side.
He didn’t do that. He bragged about his atrocities as an ‘excellent experience’.
Why are you still trying to pretend that he showed any sort of remorse?
He returned from his tour…
And then did another tour
And then did another tour
And then did another tour
And then joined Blackwater…
Like holy shit how can people possibly even just glance at that history and think “wow, this is a sane, reasonable, and well-adjusted person”
This guy could go on stage and scream “I LOVE KILLING PEOPLE SO MUCH!!!” and people would still defend him, even though… wait… isn’t that literally what one of his accusers said he would talk about all the time is enjoying war & killing people?
He was in the military for eight (8) years! He went on three (3) tours to Iraq that included Ramadi, Fallujah and Abu Ghraib! When asked why he said “he wanted to play soldier” and “he wanted go on an adventure and kill some people”! He went on another tour in Afghanistan and then once more as a blackwater (constellis) merc! I have never seen him repentant or apologetic of what he did and support.
that is not even the case. in most marxist leninist states former imperial/royalist army officials were either kept because of greater forces, purged, or entirely dismantled through the ongoing period of revolution/guerrilla warfare. im not going to say it never happened but it’s not like you shouldn’t treat former (to say the least) participants in war crimes against the proletariat with nothing but the ultimate suspicion.
Platner is an unashamed imperialist and by personal accounts loved being a mercenary in Iraq. He doesn’t seem regretful at all and made no real attempt at asking for forgiveness.
He bragged on his reddit about firing mortar rounds into civilian areas, said he joined the Marines in order to kill, later became a Blackwater Merc
https://themainemonitor.org/platner-reddit-comments/ <- includes a searchable database of his comments, plenty of other bad stuff in there too if the SA and Murder didn’t already give you a read on who he is: racism, homophobia, ableism etc
This was him in 2020.
The rape was in 2023. It’s 2026 now. Like who cares, the past is the past. He has grown past it right? He also said people need to respect women during his campaign and rape is bad. Why won’t you accept his personal growth?!
The Democratic Party people are so brain dead.
Iraq. The entirety of Iraq was a war crime. Collin Powell even came out and said there were never weapons of mass destruction and they lied to the UN. He gave that interview with the Guardian early in 2004. Fallujah was in November later that year.
The US lied about WMDs and illegally invaded a country that had neither attacked them or an ally, nor was it at war with any other country. That’s a war crime and why Germany had the Treaty of Versailles placed on it for invading neutral Belgium.
Let’s not forget he willingly did multiple tours, and some for potentially black water (a war crime loving group)
Yup. I was just pointing out how there were no doubts in 2004 the Iraq War was illegal. Platner joined up after then-secretary Powell confessed the whole thing was a sham. It’s not like he joined up on September 12th. 2001, naively believing the US was a force for good. He joined when everyone knew what was being done to the Middle East was a crime.
At the point when someone has volunteered to do that many tours, I think the burden of proof is on them to prove that they did not commit war crimes.