It is the same as the United States and Silicon Valley; I won’t defend China because I hate America, just as I can’t ally with Baphomet just to kill Lucifer.
I am politically pessimistic, so I don’t believe that any good state, government or politician really exists, they are all equally disgusting and putrid, and as such, I hate each and every one of them equally.
I will defend China because it’s doing good. It has lifted 100s of millions out of poverty.nit is the only country that is on track to hit the goals set by the Paris climate agreement - many years ahead of schedule. It invests heavily in public infrastructure, to the good of the people. It has become a fantastic producer of solar energy panels, which will be needed to ensure a livable future - in fact China does so many wonders in the fields of climate science, energy production and so much more. It has one of the best democratic systems I have ever seen - and that shows in the belief its citizens have in the democratic processes of China. It is one of the only countries that has taken Big Tech seriously - curtailing it rather than letting it foment genocides and spread misinformation. It is the only country that actually makes billionaires answer to the law. It has made great strides with it’s anti-corruption campaigns as well, something I wish I would see elsewhere.
The critiques I have of the nation are likewise being rectified. LGBTQ rights are constantly being expanded for example.
Why do you assume support of a country is contingent on how one feels about another country?
I don’t hate the US because of anything to do with China. I hate the US because of what the US is and does.
Noo, if you admit that there can be more than one bad thing, you’ve fallen for western propaganda! For there is only one bad thing: The bourgeoisie west!
Liberals and western “leftists” use the idea as a thought terminating cliche, hiding behind it to avoid recognizing when two diametrically opposed things are in fact not equally bad.
When the “lesser” evil is an openly genocidal liberal politician, they bang on and on about how it’s tactical and a step in a direction and trolley problem and blah blah blah.
But when the lesser evil is a state they’ve been taught to villify? Oh buddy, don’t you know two things can be bad at once? I hate all sides equally! (but only repeat the narratives of one).
The point is that the two things are in fact not diametrically opposed. Russia is a capitalist, imperial power. As is the USA. As is Iran and China.
The notion that two things can be bad at once is actually an antidote to the thought terminating cliche of “the enemy of my enemy is my ally”. It encourages to actually analyse the two things that are supposedly diametrically opposed at their own merits.
It used to be common for leftists not to condone any war effort by capitalist/imperialist states, because there is nothing to gain. But now, campist “leftists” (I can use scare-quotes to childishly delegitimize self-proclaimed “leftists”, too) are laser-focused in their anti-americanism that they don’t see what’s happening around them anymore.
When the “lesser” evil is an openly genocidal liberal politician, they bang on and on about how it’s tactical and a step in a direction and trolley problem and blah blah blah.
I agree. Therefore I condone neither politicians nor states. Because “both things” are “bad”, as it were.
Imperialism: The practice of states to expand their influence beyond their sovereign borders.
Burkina Faso is imperialist for kicking France out of the surrounding region, excellent definition.
State-Capitalism: The mode of production where the means of production are owned by the institutions of the state.
Referring to publicly owned, planned economies as “state capitalism” is monstrously misleading. Capitalism is a system of private ownership, marketized distribution, with capital accumulation as the primary goal of capitalists. Using “capitalism” to refer to an administered, planned economy is just a subjectivist argument. State capitalism is a better descriptor for the Republic of Korea and Singapore, capitalist economies with heavy bourgeois state control.
So, now you want a moralist argument? O.o
This isn’t a moralist argument, the argument is to get you to actually explain with concrete examples how China is imperialist. Given that you provided a definition of imperialism that makes Cuba imperialist for exporting doctors and aid missions in order to gain favor with surrounding countries, I don’t think it’s necessary to provide any examples of “Chinese imperialism.”
And, again, I hate US too, but I hate every government/state/party/politician equally, so well… I’m just really pesimistic, more as I live in Venezuela, that basically divinizes China, and here we can barely even exist peacefully; just now we even have an arbitrary curfew for the army to steal everything they want in my town.
It is the same as the United States and Silicon Valley; I won’t defend China because I hate America, just as I can’t ally with Baphomet just to kill Lucifer.
I am politically pessimistic, so I don’t believe that any good state, government or politician really exists, they are all equally disgusting and putrid, and as such, I hate each and every one of them equally.
I will defend China because it’s doing good. It has lifted 100s of millions out of poverty.nit is the only country that is on track to hit the goals set by the Paris climate agreement - many years ahead of schedule. It invests heavily in public infrastructure, to the good of the people. It has become a fantastic producer of solar energy panels, which will be needed to ensure a livable future - in fact China does so many wonders in the fields of climate science, energy production and so much more. It has one of the best democratic systems I have ever seen - and that shows in the belief its citizens have in the democratic processes of China. It is one of the only countries that has taken Big Tech seriously - curtailing it rather than letting it foment genocides and spread misinformation. It is the only country that actually makes billionaires answer to the law. It has made great strides with it’s anti-corruption campaigns as well, something I wish I would see elsewhere.
The critiques I have of the nation are likewise being rectified. LGBTQ rights are constantly being expanded for example.
Why do you assume support of a country is contingent on how one feels about another country?
I don’t hate the US because of anything to do with China. I hate the US because of what the US is and does.
You have a very simplistic worldview.
This is Baphomet slander. They’re not evil.
Good choice with Baphomet, a propaganda campaign to persecute the Templar Order because they became too powerful.
Noo, if you admit that there can be more than one bad thing, you’ve fallen for western propaganda! For there is only one bad thing: The
bourgeoisiewest!/s
“I portrayed you as the dullard, therefore I have won the argument.”
I’m sorry - have you supplied a definition of authoritarian?
Authoritarian is when not ruled by westerners.
TwO tHiNgS
Do you disagree with the statement that two things can be bad at once?
Liberals and western “leftists” use the idea as a thought terminating cliche, hiding behind it to avoid recognizing when two diametrically opposed things are in fact not equally bad.
When the “lesser” evil is an openly genocidal liberal politician, they bang on and on about how it’s tactical and a step in a direction and trolley problem and blah blah blah.
But when the lesser evil is a state they’ve been taught to villify? Oh buddy, don’t you know two things can be bad at once? I hate all sides equally! (but only repeat the narratives of one).
The point is that the two things are in fact not diametrically opposed. Russia is a capitalist, imperial power. As is the USA. As is Iran and China.
The notion that two things can be bad at once is actually an antidote to the thought terminating cliche of “the enemy of my enemy is my ally”. It encourages to actually analyse the two things that are supposedly diametrically opposed at their own merits.
It used to be common for leftists not to condone any war effort by capitalist/imperialist states, because there is nothing to gain. But now, campist “leftists” (I can use scare-quotes to childishly delegitimize self-proclaimed “leftists”, too) are laser-focused in their anti-americanism that they don’t see what’s happening around them anymore.
I agree. Therefore I condone neither politicians nor states. Because “both things” are “bad”, as it were.
Could you list the victims of Chinese imperialism? Please also define imperialism and capitalism.
Imperialism: The practice of states to expand their influence beyond their sovereign borders.
State-Capitalism: The mode of production where the means of production are owned by the institutions of the state.
So, now you want a moralist argument? O.o
Vacous redefinition of the term that vacates it of all it’s explanatory power.
A definition of capitalism that includes no mention of class or class power is meaningless.
Not moralist to ask for proof of the imperialist power doing imperialism. Nice attempt at a dodge though.
You genuinely become more of a parody of the western “anarchist” with every post.
Burkina Faso is imperialist for kicking France out of the surrounding region, excellent definition.
Referring to publicly owned, planned economies as “state capitalism” is monstrously misleading. Capitalism is a system of private ownership, marketized distribution, with capital accumulation as the primary goal of capitalists. Using “capitalism” to refer to an administered, planned economy is just a subjectivist argument. State capitalism is a better descriptor for the Republic of Korea and Singapore, capitalist economies with heavy bourgeois state control.
This isn’t a moralist argument, the argument is to get you to actually explain with concrete examples how China is imperialist. Given that you provided a definition of imperialism that makes Cuba imperialist for exporting doctors and aid missions in order to gain favor with surrounding countries, I don’t think it’s necessary to provide any examples of “Chinese imperialism.”
So…WW2. The invasion of Normandy by the allied powers. Imperialism?
That’s an extremely stupid question, you’re an extremely stupid person
Alright, my bad. Should’ve discarded your opinion earlier.
Yes it’s your bad, wrong about why tho
Yeah lmao
And, again, I hate US too, but I hate every government/state/party/politician equally, so well… I’m just really pesimistic, more as I live in Venezuela, that basically divinizes China, and here we can barely even exist peacefully; just now we even have an arbitrary curfew for the army to steal everything they want in my town.
Oof, that’s tough. Are there any mutual aid groups in your area to reach out to?
Edit:
Can someone who downvoted me tell me what’s wrong with that particular comment, or is it just that you don’t like me, personally?