SlAvA UkrAnI!

  • AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip
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    16 hours ago

    Yeah, people get irritable about misinformation on their front page, like when someone falsely claims Zelenskyy canceled elections.

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        2 hours ago

        Zelenskyy isn’t blocking elections, though. Ukrainian law/constitution forbids elections under martial law, and they’re under martial law because they’re still under invasion from Russia. If anyone is blocking Ukrainian elections, it’s Putin because the only options he left them are to either resist and forego elections temporarily or submit and lose Ukrainian elections forever. In neither option does Ukraine get elections, and Zelenskyy isn’t the one who created the situation by invading.

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          1 hour ago

          Even if that weren’t 100% bullshit it wouldn’t matter because the current regime was put there by a US backed coup anyway. Russia’s response to our extremely obvious puppet state waging proxy war from right across their border is perfectly reasonable, if they overthrew Mexico and started sending people across the border to attack us we’d have fucking nuked them by now

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            51 minutes ago

            Even if that weren’t 100% bullshit

            Wishing doesn’t make it so. You’re free to try to prove me wrong, but you won’t like what you find when you search.

            Russia’s response to our extremely obvious puppet state waging proxy war from right across their border is perfectly reasonable, if they overthrew Mexico and started sending people across the border to attack us we’d have fucking nuked them by now

            You’d think Russia would have made a bigger deal of that if there were any truth to it at all, but they don’t even mention it. They like to make claims about Nazis, they like to cry about NATO expanding after some of their neighbors watched them abuse some of their other neighbors, they downplay whether they’re really in a genuine war or just a “special military operation”, but they never claim Ukraine attacked them first.

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              40 minutes ago

              You’d think Russia would have made a bigger deal of that if there were any truth to it at all, but they don’t even mention it

              They did and do, you’re a fucking joke

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                29 minutes ago

                All I can find when I try to look into it is an AI overview claiming it with no source, but search is shit these days and heavily favors new news, so maybe you’re right and they have technically at some point made the claim.

                But let’s look at what Putin had to say when the “special military operation” began:

                “The purpose of this operation is to protect people who, for eight years now, have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kyiv regime,” Putin said in a televised address. “To this end, we will seek to demilitarise and denazify Ukraine, as well as bring to trial those who perpetrated numerous bloody crimes against civilians, including against citizens of the Russian Federation.”

                Now he makes a lot of claims there, but they’re not the point right now, so let’s try to not get distracted. Let’s focus on the part where he claims they attacked first because this is surely where he’d make that claim, right at the start when first trying to justify their actions, right? Except it isn’t there. Because it’s horse shit, and not even Putin can say it with a straight face.

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        47 minutes ago

        No, a bunch of parties were suspended because they have connections to the country that’s bombing them, and it’s only while they’re under martial law. Martial law could end any day now if Russia just fucked off back home.