If we’re talking about people in eastern Ukraine, they are absolutely being liberated from the US-backed fascist puppet government that had spent a decade killing 14,000 of them in a campaign of ethnic cleansing and outlawing their culture.
Well, this is what those “liberated” cities look like:
Chasiv Yar
And dwellers of those cities can’t just cross the frontline and start living in Russia. They only can evacuate deeper into Ukraine because otherwise they won’t survive. And Ukrainian government doesn’t build new houses for them. They give them a bit of money (but you won’t be able to afford rent), and sometimes they offer quickly built barracks (trust me, you wouldn’t want to live there). So I doubt you would find any of those “liberated” people happy.
If that’s not enough, Russia also bombs electricity infrastructure in winter (it’s a high demand season). Because of this, people across the country suffer from electricity outages. Imagine having only 3 hours of electricity per day (that’s how it was in Odessa about a month ago). It’s also quite cold in here. I’m not sure what Russia’s strategy is, maybe they’re trying to destroy the country’s economy or hurt manufacturing abilities, but it’s simply inhumane. Regular people suffer a lot because of it.
What I’m trying to say is that it’s not about liberating people. Many Ukrainians hate their government, especially after TCR gone wild (it’s like ICE, but much worse), and recent corruption scandals tied to Zelensky’s inner circle. But it’s replacing one shitty government with another. Russia is also corrupt, half of the internet is banned, you can’t even access YouTube or popular Matrix servers, and LGBTQ is illegal (also, every time it’s mentioned it’s labeled with “the LGBT movement is recognized as extremist and banned in Russia” - here you can see this in a TASS article for example).
Here’s the city of Caen, France, after being “liberated” by the allies. Still think fighting nazis is cool??
Yeah dude, fighting makes places fucked up, what a stunning insight. I have no choice but to slap on an Azov patch and seig heil in the face of such moral wisdom.
France was occupied by Germany. When you start a war with another country because their government gone wild, it’s not liberation. Is the US liberating the Iranian people?
You can’t even access the website of the biggest spying complex in history, that works for your biggest enemy, the one that wanted to genocide you for decades.
I don’t think they’re doing this because they are concerned about citizens’ safety or privacy. I think the main goal is to replace these platforms with their own proprietary alternatives. This way, the ruling class can earn more money and gain full control over the content people consume. If safety were truly a concern, why not fund PeerTube development? Or open-source what they’ve developed?
Anyway, I prefer to decide which websites to access on my own. I think allowing an oligarchy to make that decision for us can’t be a good thing.
I jumped on the grenade and read this all so you don’t have to folks
Nowhere in those three paragraphs is a good faith response to what ShimmeringKoi said. They went completely off topic and only tied it back insofar as to say ‘and that’s why it’s not liberating’
If we’re talking about people in eastern Ukraine, they are absolutely being liberated from the US-backed fascist puppet government that had spent a decade killing 14,000 of them in a campaign of ethnic cleansing and outlawing their culture.
Well, this is what those “liberated” cities look like:
Chasiv Yar
And dwellers of those cities can’t just cross the frontline and start living in Russia. They only can evacuate deeper into Ukraine because otherwise they won’t survive. And Ukrainian government doesn’t build new houses for them. They give them a bit of money (but you won’t be able to afford rent), and sometimes they offer quickly built barracks (trust me, you wouldn’t want to live there). So I doubt you would find any of those “liberated” people happy.
If that’s not enough, Russia also bombs electricity infrastructure in winter (it’s a high demand season). Because of this, people across the country suffer from electricity outages. Imagine having only 3 hours of electricity per day (that’s how it was in Odessa about a month ago). It’s also quite cold in here. I’m not sure what Russia’s strategy is, maybe they’re trying to destroy the country’s economy or hurt manufacturing abilities, but it’s simply inhumane. Regular people suffer a lot because of it.
What I’m trying to say is that it’s not about liberating people. Many Ukrainians hate their government, especially after TCR gone wild (it’s like ICE, but much worse), and recent corruption scandals tied to Zelensky’s inner circle. But it’s replacing one shitty government with another. Russia is also corrupt, half of the internet is banned, you can’t even access YouTube or popular Matrix servers, and LGBTQ is illegal (also, every time it’s mentioned it’s labeled with “the LGBT movement is recognized as extremist and banned in Russia” - here you can see this in a TASS article for example).
Yeah dude, fighting makes places fucked up, what a stunning insight. I have no choice but to slap on an Azov patch and seig heil in the face of such moral wisdom.
France was occupied by Germany. When you start a war with another country because their government gone wild, it’s not liberation. Is the US liberating the Iranian people?
Wanna try that one again?
Lol dumb
You can’t even access youtube.
You can’t even access the website of the biggest spying complex in history, that works for your biggest enemy, the one that wanted to genocide you for decades.
I wonder why.
I don’t think they’re doing this because they are concerned about citizens’ safety or privacy. I think the main goal is to replace these platforms with their own proprietary alternatives. This way, the ruling class can earn more money and gain full control over the content people consume. If safety were truly a concern, why not fund PeerTube development? Or open-source what they’ve developed?
Anyway, I prefer to decide which websites to access on my own. I think allowing an oligarchy to make that decision for us can’t be a good thing.
I jumped on the grenade and read this all so you don’t have to folks
Nowhere in those three paragraphs is a good faith response to what ShimmeringKoi said. They went completely off topic and only tied it back insofar as to say ‘and that’s why it’s not liberating’