I don’t want to hear about how your Wehrmacht soldiers are just following orders. Fuck the US Army and fuck the troops, too. Death to AmeriKKKa, death to “Israel”, death to the west.
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It’s hilarious when you tankies from the west, sit in your western built basements, raging about the west on your western tech…just move. I’ll buy you the plane ticket, russia is dying for people to move there. You and cowbee both.
If they wanted to live, they shouldn’t have signed up to kill people for the empire. Instead of following orders, they can refuse them. Yankee nationalists cry about it in the comments.
If they wanted to live, they shouldn’t have signed up to kill people for the empire. Instead of following orders, they can refuse them.
Guess at least it’s good to see there isn’t any difference between Americans and Russians after all.
The difference is that Russia isn’t trying to control the entire world. Hence “the empire”.
Edit: America is the primary source of suffering in the world, along with its allies. I don’t really care about Russia and bringing it up is a weak deflection.
The only conflict that matters is the class conflict. Everything else is a distraction. Eat the rich.
This is phrasemongering class reductionism. The principle contradiction in the world right now is imperialism, which the US Empire is at the head of.
I’m not disagreeing with the opinion that imperialism is one of the biggest large-scale problems facing humanity, and that the US is the current worst offender.
I’m just pointing out that at the root of imperialism are a few powerful people attempting to rule over the rest of us. Tech-feudalism in the digital world is another huge problem, as is the rise of fascism. And they all come from class warfare, at least in my humble opinion.
But I am also not pretending to be as informed on history and current events as many other here, and I am no attempting to lecture anyone as if I know better. That would just be decisive and counterproductive.
Great slogan unfortunately not how it works in the modern reality of imperialism and neocolonialism, the class struggle can only truly begin after the premier contradiction of national liberation has been resolved.
The struggle against imperialism and neocolonism is class struggle.
On one side is the international bourgeoise and national bourgeoises (of many countries), on the other side is the national bourgeoise (of some countries), the proletariat, peasantry and indigenous populations.
(The class conflict is most complicated than that but I’m just making a point)
I appreciate the clarification, but the framing still conflates two distinct phases of struggle. My original point wasn’t that anti-imperialism exists outside class analysis, but that in neo-colonial conditions, the form class struggle takes must be strategically sequenced. The slogan “eat the rich” implies an immediate, undifferentiated domestic class war, which in practice fractures the broad coalition needed to first break imperialist domination. When foreign capital, military bases, and debt traps dictate a nation’s political economy, the principal contradiction lies between the oppressed nation and international imperialism, not yet between the domestic proletariat and the national bourgeoisie who may also be constrained by that same imperialist structure.
“In any complex process there are many contradictions, and of necessity one of them is the principal contradiction which plays the leading and decisive role, while the rest occupy a secondary and subordinate position.”
This is why popular fronts with patriotic sections of the national bourgeoisie are a, but a materialist application of class politics. As Chairman Mao argued in On the Policy of the Chinese Communist Party in the Anti-Japanese United Front,
“We must unite with all the classes, strata, political parties, groups and individuals that can possibly be united in the anti-imperialist struggle.”
This is a tactical necessity to isolate the primary enemy. To elevate the domestic “rich” as the immediate target while imperialist powers actively undermine sovereignty is to misidentify the principal contradiction and risk strengthening the external oppressor.
The enemy of our enemy is our friend, the national bourgeoisie, when objectively opposed to imperialist control, can be a conditional ally in the first stage of revolution.
Only after national liberation is secured (when the external fetters are broken and the people control their own state apparatus) can the internal class struggle proceed to its decisive phase. At that point, the proletariat, having built its strength and consciousness through the anti-imperialist struggle, can confront domestic exploiting classes without the distortion of foreign interference. As Chairman Mao put it in On New Democracy,
“The Chinese revolution must be divided into two steps: the first is to change the colonial, semi-colonial and semi-feudal society into an independent, democratic society; the second is to carry the revolution forward to establish a socialist society.”
My original point wasn’t that anti-imperialism exists outside class analysis, but that in neo-colonial conditions, the form class struggle takes must be strategically sequenced.
Absolutely. Even outside of neo-colonial conditions I would argue this. Revolution is not a one and done deal, nor can any class afford to fight a war on all fronts against everyone at once.
This is a tactical necessity to isolate the primary enemy. To elevate the domestic “rich” as the immediate target while imperialist powers actively undermine sovereignty is to misidentify the principal contradiction and risk strengthening the external oppressor.
Not only that, but “rich” is a poor term that cannot be properly defined. The proletariat must be clear that the class boundaries lie in the ownership of industrial and mercantile/financial capital, not in some tax bracket.
However, there is a situation in which it makes sense for the loser classes to depose the upper classes even under colonial conditions. That’s if the national ruling class is too incompetent or collaborationist. I believe the overthrowing of the Qing dynasty can be such an example. Of course, this does not apply to modern day Iran.
I agree, I just like to remind people what the end goal is.
True. But class comes is not a binary.
