In all fairness, a liberal is just a Nazi that has never actually experienced suffering before.
There appear to be a vast number of iberals who are indeed raging angry by the murders, represented by people wearing the Liberal badge and not reported and not reflected.
No elected liberal leader has decried this ongoing genocide. Every single one supports Israel, and other settler colonial projects just like it. Liberal countries have been the main perpetrators of colonialism in the modern era, so this is nothing surprising.
Have to upvote you on this truth
ah yes, not all liberals
Won’t argue with you on that one.
Maybe I’ve been on lemmy too long. So confused on who liberals are anymore.
This. Never understood the term in the first place, is this something I’m not american enough to understand? Isn’t there a substantial difference between right-liberal and left-liberal?
Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism, so everyone supporting capitalism is technically a liberal.
I think you have a typo. Libs don’t support Israel in anything.
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What were you saying?
I have news for you. The BBC isn’t a single liberal entity. Some parts are liberal for sure, but mostly it just “looks” liberal some of the time, especially the news and politics teams who essentially do whatever the current UK government wants, under threat of defunding.
I have news for you
In Europe and Latin America, liberalism means a moderate form of classical liberalism and includes both conservative liberalism (centre-right liberalism) and social liberalism (centre-left liberalism).[26]
Liberalism essentially encompasses the entirety of what is broadly considered acceptable within western politics, which is why you’ll sometimes hear the term ‘western liberal democracies’, but for our purposes we are usually referring to the less immediately fascist end of the spectrum
(liberalism always eventually decays into fascism due to the utter disempowerment of any force with material interests in resisting the pull of fascism, but nevermind that for now)that like to consider themselves progressive because they engage positively with identity politics.They aren’t truly progressive because they don’t fundamentally challenge the systems and power structures that enable these kinds of political developments (loss of bodily autonomy, marriage equality, affirmative gender care, etc) and the proliferation of the “culture war” in the first place, and are very often minimizing and hostile towards those who do take a principled stance against these systems. The extent of their political understanding is largely bound by establishment liberal media which has a clear stake in the continuation of that very same system that is threatened by any real material social progress. This contradiction often leads liberals into defending those systems and power structures even at the expense of the marginalized groups that a liberal would purport to defend, and lashing out against those to the left of them for not “knowing their place” in a system that has for a very long time been ratcheting itself towards fascism.
No. Liberal countries do most of the resistance of Fascism. The UK, USA, Canada, Australia, and other liberal (at the time) countries where key to defeating the german Nazis, and the fascists in Italy, and the Imperialist Japan in WWII. Institutions like the UN, European Court of Human Rights, and NATO all came about from liberal countries, and were specifically designed to prevent more fascism. If liberalism is alwasys headed towards “decay into fascism,” those liberal-led alliances would have collapsed into authoritarianism decades ago. Instead, they’ve mostly grown and improved human rights.
Liberals have driven a load of meaningful structural changes. How about . . .
- Civil Rights Act which brought down the racial segregation, and was led by liberal lawmakers and other progressive movements.
- Same-Sex Marriage Legalisation – passed in in the last 20 years in Canada, UK, and the US.
- Continued growth of Universal Healthcare
This is wrong on many accounts.
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The UK, France, US, Canada, and Australia all paled in comparison to the USSR, who killed 85% of the total Nazis killed during World War II. Many of these liberal countries, the US especially, had thriving trade with Nazi Germany and non-aggression pacts early on in the 1930s. The US even continued to do business in Nazi Germany during World War II by cloaking assets owned by Ford, Coke, etc. It isn’t liberals, but communists that have been the most consistent and steady anti-fascists in history.
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NATO isn’t anti-fascist, it’s anti-communist, and has been led by literal Nazis like Adolf Heusinger. There is no part of NATO that has been anti-fascist.
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These liberal countries have always been authoritarian, as they are all dictatorships of capital.
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They have grown economically thanks to the spoils of imperialism.
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The Civil Rights Act was won by leftist agitation from leftists like Martin Luther King Jr, Malcolm X, and outright communists like the Black Panther Party relentlessly pushing for it. Liberals opposed it initially.
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Same-sex marriage was pushed for relentlessly by leftists such as the Black Panther Party, Gay Liberation Front, and more, until liberals eventually conceded.
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Universal Healthcare has been regularly pushed for through millitant organizing from leftists, liberals have been responsible for weakening or privatizing healthcare.
You don’t really know what you’re talking about.
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